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| No light bulbs going off today as to ask why out academy and reserves dont use the same structures and systems as the first team?
It's possibly a big part of when we get Injurys we capitulate so badly. I honestly can't believe Hodgsons even made that comment and openly admitted it
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| Quote ="Rocknrolla69er"No light bulbs going off today as to ask why out academy and reserves dont use the same structures and systems as the first team?
It's possibly a big part of when we get Injurys we capitulate so badly. I honestly can't believe Hodgsons even made that comment and openly admitted it'"
He didn't - he was referring to the three loan players. Reading clearly not one of your strong points.
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| Quote ="ccs"He didn't - he was referring to the three loan players. Reading clearly not one of your strong points.'"
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| Quote ="GrahamBray"Gotta disagree there.
Mitchell, Trebojovic and Tedesco are all pure class and that's just fullbacks covered. Cleary is brilliant, but if he isn't feeling it , they can have DCE and Reynolds as replacement, Munster as you have said is pure class as is Matt Burton and Cody Walker, Jerome Luaiai (spelling), their hookers could be any of Grant, Cook or even Ben Young . wingers Ado Carr, Cobbo, Tupou (if he chooses them over Tonga, or any number of options, . Then there is the rest their pack, at least, 5 picks in every position better than the best we have. If they turn up wanting to win, we do well to keep them below 60 in my opinion.
We see our management talking players such as Ryan Hall, who didn't score during his time with the Roosters, Sam Tomlins and Johnny Lomax and, as good as they are/have been in SL, they'd struggle to get in any of the 2nd tier nations' squad. I hope I am wrong , but I don't even have us a 3rd favourite, given the names Tonga and even Samoa can call on, never mind NZ and the Aussies.
I'd go as far as to say this World cup could be the final nail in the coffin for Northern Hemisphere International RL.'"
Totally agree with all this - Australia have got a whole next generation of that has come through to replace Skater, Thurston etc. They will beat England rather easily….
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| Quote ="scarrie"With a nights remove from the result I'm struggling to get too worked up over the result.
It easy to forget that earlier in the season with pretty much a full side to pick from we nearly beat Wigan and then did actually beat them.
Last night we had half the squad in the stands, the ones left are mostly young kids, recent acquisitions and players in their twilight years. Add to that losing our best non-kid/old man player early on coupled with Wigan being in red hot form currently.
Yes, 60-0 isn't a good look but its understandable in the context and not nearly as bad as the Leeds game imo.
It gets a massive a shrug from me and I'll move onto the Cas game which we have a realistic chance of winning.'" Don't talk common sense you'll upset a few on here
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| I don’t know which is worse, the fact we lost 60-0 or just now watching the highlights of why we lost 60-0.
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| Can anyone who went tell me when Houghton went off after 50 minutes did hookem go dummy half or joey?
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| Quote ="DallasMead2"Totally agree with all this - Australia have got a whole next generation of that has come through to replace Skater, Thurston etc. They will beat England rather easily….'"
The same Tedesco who couldn't even get selected infront of slater so played for Italy? That one right
Who's replacing Thurston? Cleary? Another who couldn't get a look in until the old guard retired
Tedesco is 29 aswell so why couldn't he break through in 2017?
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| Quote ="Thetalentboy"The same Tedesco who couldn't even get selected infront of slater so played for Italy? That one right
Who's replacing Thurston? Cleary? Another who couldn't get a look in until the old guard retired
Tedesco is 29 aswell so why couldn't he break through in 2017?'"
Are you saying you don't rate Tedesco???
He's an absolute standout in the current game.
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| Quote ="Dave K."I'll send you the list as soon as you show me where I said Connor was the best fullback in the league.'"
Come on Dave, you're better than this
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| Quote ="mwindass"Come on Dave, you're better than this
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I'm not, he just makes things up and then doesn't reply.
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| Quote ="Dave K."I'll send you the list as soon as you show me where I said Connor was the best fullback in the league.'"
You was adamant you could name 10 better so there's your challenge
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| Quote ="WIZEB"Are you saying you don't rate Tedesco???
He's an absolute standout in the current game.'"
But he's not better than Billy slater otherwise he wouldn't of played for Italy
Tedesco wasn't a youngster in 2017 either he was 25
Damien cook is probably the best 9 Australia have and he didn't make his international debut till 2018 at the age of 28 !
These guys are apparently better than the likes of slater and Cameron smith yet couldn't get a look in when they was around
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| Quote ="Dave K."I'll send you the list as soon as you show me where I said Connor was the best fullback in the league.'"
Err Dave ?
You do rate Jake very highly ..
i won’t get into the Jc debate as there’s a vocal fan club on here
Only thing I will say is last 5 seasons we have gone backwards and won nothing ..
It’s not JUST Jakes fault,
it’s the playing groups fault!!
BH &AP are proactively addressing it .
Whatever your b&W blinkers show
We all must agree that these regular hammerings must stop.
It’s damaging !!
No other club, not even Toulouse get thrashed like we do..
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| Welsby & lomax
Field & French
Are showing how SL has changed.
It’s about pace !!
If we are to move forward and challenge then we need pace in our playing group
If you Jc supporters think he’s our saviour? after watching wigan scalp us then you’ve got a lot of disappointment to come.
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| Quote ="boardwalkempire4"Welsby & lomax
Field & French
Are showing how SL has changed.
It’s about pace !!
If we are to move forward and challenge then we need pace in our playing group
If you Jc supporters think he’s our saviour? after watching wigan scalp us then you’ve got a lot of disappointment to come.'"
Spot on thats why i expect Hodgson to do a u turn on Jake Connor and play him at six next season or even when he is fit if Walker if still with us.
Simm would be a good start as a new centre and maybe fly over the new Ratu we have found in Nigeria
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| Quote ="boardwalkempire4"Err Dave ?
You do rate Jake very highly ..
i won’t get into the Jc debate as there’s a vocal fan club on here
Only thing I will say is last 5 seasons we have gone backwards and won nothing ..
It’s not JUST Jakes fault,
it’s the playing groups fault!!
BH &AP are proactively addressing it .
Whatever your b&W blinkers show
We all must agree that these regular hammerings must stop.
It’s damaging !!
No other club, not even Toulouse get thrashed like we do..'"
Connor is an excellent SL player, including being a good SL FB, he certainly isn't the best FB in SL and I've never said that, but he is so important to our team. He isn't the saviour, but when he plays we are a better team, the club need to support him by signing other creative players as as it stands for this season we don't have any in key positions. My biggest argument was that Connor was our best FB whilst one fan thought Shaul was better which is laughable.
If he gets injured first gane of the season and is out for the whole season we would be fighting Toulose and Wakey for relegation.
Looks like the club ate trying to address the situation and give Jake some support, the fact he has so many try assists is remarkable when you consider as an opposition coach he is our only threat.
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| Quote ="Dave K."Connor is an excellent SL player, including being a good SL FB, he certainly isn't the best FB in SL and I've never said that, but he is so important to our team. He isn't the saviour, but when he plays we are a better team, the club need to support him by signing other creative players as as it stands for this season we don't have any in key positions. My biggest argument was that Connor was our best FB whilst one fan thought Shaul was better which is laughable.
If he gets injured first gane of the season and is out for the whole season we would be fighting Toulose and Wakey for relegation.
Looks like the club ate trying to address the situation and give Jake some support, the fact he has so many try assists is remarkable when you consider as an opposition coach he is our only threat.'"
Still waiting for the "10 players better than Roby,makinson and walmsley in their positions!"
Or you having trouble finding some answers
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| Quote ="Thetalentboy"Still waiting for the "10 players better than Roby,makinson and walmsley in their positions!"
Or you having trouble finding some answers
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Im still waiting for me to show me where I said Connor was the best full back in SL, once you do or admit making that up, I'll getcyou the list?
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| Nrl a joy to watch - athleticism, skill & commitment week after week.
Super league lost its way - standards slipping year on year, not helped by covid, lack of funding, can’t watch it in comparison to nrl, boring style of play from most teams with really low skill levels.
Not sure how we improve - youth is the answer but our top prospects are being targeted by nrl, they will earn way more money over there & compete on a much bigger scale allied to the lifestyle, weather etc.
Officiating really poor as is the tribunal, the bunker & captains challenge work like clockwork over there, our alternate is a joke - makes me wince every time.
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| Quote ="al283"Super league lost its way - standards slipping year on year, not helped by covid, lack of funding, can’t watch it in comparison to nrl, boring style of play from most teams with really low skill levels.'" To think some people want the league to expand to 14 teams, can you imagine the standard of players that will be playing at the top level if that happens
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| Quote ="al283"Nrl a joy to watch - athleticism, skill & commitment week after week.
Super league lost its way - standards slipping year on year, not helped by covid, lack of funding, can’t watch it in comparison to nrl, boring style of play from most teams with really low skill levels.
Not sure how we improve - youth is the answer but our top prospects are being targeted by nrl, they will earn way more money over there & compete on a much bigger scale allied to the lifestyle, weather etc.
Officiating really poor as is the tribunal, the bunker & captains challenge work like clockwork over there, our alternate is a joke - makes me wince every time.'"
Exactly how I feel
Although I do feel for refs a little as too many players are becoming like footballers and cheating or feigning injury to try and win penalties
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| Quote ="davey41"Exactly how I feel
Although I do feel for refs a little as too many players are becoming like footballers and cheating or feigning injury to try and win penalties
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| Quote ="Chris71"To be fair I think that's down to the the way the game is being officiated and the poor standard plus incidents like Parcell milking tackles for all it's worth and the decisions coming from the stands rather than the on field match officials.'" Non-televised games are always more enjoyable for this reason, players have started adjusting their behaviour knowing the VR will step in for any contact and also try to deliberately get obstructed so the VR will rule out tries.
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