I think its fair to say that if we don't make top 4 with the squad we have assembled then the league campaign will be deemed a failure.

Top 3 are nailed on IMO. I don't see we're entitled to the last spot at all with our limited front row options.

No team is entitled to finishing in the top 4 but I'm not alone in thinking that we should be making top 4 with this team. Saints aside, I don't think we are any more limited in the front row than Wigan, Warrington or anyone else; Taylor, Bowden, Setae, Sao, Ellis, Masi...

I don't think you can name four clubs that have better squads than us. Coaching however is a different debate.

As said, we have Taylor who must be at risk of burn out - we know he has played though injuries. Bowden still short of form for me. Satae is a good prospect off the bench but I don't feel we can roll other packs. Our middles have been exposed this year and we haven't strengthened if you think Paea was our best prop for much of this year. Kelly's fitness is another key concern. We know Connor at 6 with Sneyd isn't an amazing option. I would be delighted if your expectations were realised, of course.

As said, I don't think you can name 4 clubs with better squads than us. It takes more than the props to roll a pack and we will not struggle to make metres with our pack and outside backs. The main area we were exposed last year was tactically, which I'm hopeful we are addressing with these new coaches.

I think Saints, Warrington and Wigan have better squads and ours is on a par with Catalans, Castleford, Wakefield and Hull KR.

Is that Hull KRs 1986 squad?

HKR ?
what do you put in your coffee Mrs B?

Quote ="bonaire"HKR ? what do you put in your coffee Mrs B?'" https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/r ... am-2825951 Well, this + the "Revolution"... Also their props are Garbutt, Mulhern, Masoe, and Maher.

Quote ="bonaire"HKR ? what do you put in your coffee Mrs B?'" https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/r ... am-2825951 Well, this + the "Revolution"... Also their props are Garbutt, Mulhern, Masoe, and Maher.

Is this you getting your excuses in early?

Squad wise we are there right up at the top now, best recruitment out of anyone in SL, you couldn't name a team that has been more active recruiting the quality we have.

To put us on a par with Cas, Cats, Wakey and Rovers is ridiculous and embarrassing even by your excuse making standards.

If we fail it won't be down to recruitment.

Such a nastiness and unnecessary aggression. Take care, that could ome back and find you. Hope for the best, expect the worst, take what cones with good grace. x

No nastiness or aggression just sheer disbelief.

"Ridiculous and embarrassing even by your standards". It's just a different opinion. Try and accept it. You advocate that as I recall.

That’s not even close to been true, you’ve already proved my point on this thread alone.

Quote ="MorningGlory23"you’ll get no response from me.'" Wait, what? Quote ="MorningGlory23"That’s not even close to been true, you’ve already proved my point on this thread alone.'" There's a place for everyone's opinion, surely? Just be nice. Paul Hatton is ready and enjoying working with Purtill. https://www.hullfc.com/news/2019-10-25- ... pre-season Who will be missing? Faraimo Naulago? (not sure if Fiji have any international commitments or if any army complexities around pre season etc) Connor Jones Ma'u

Quote ="MorningGlory23"you’ll get no response from me.'" Wait, what? Quote ="MorningGlory23"That’s not even close to been true, you’ve already proved my point on this thread alone.'" There's a place for everyone's opinion, surely? Just be nice. Paul Hatton is ready and enjoying working with Purtill. https://www.hullfc.com/news/2019-10-25- ... pre-season Who will be missing? Faraimo Naulago? (not sure if Fiji have any international commitments or if any army complexities around pre season etc) Connor Jones Ma'u

Quote ="Mrs Barista"Wait, what? There's a place for everyone's opinion, surely? Just be nice. Paul Hatton is ready and enjoying working with Purtill. https://www.hullfc.com/news/2019-10-25- ... pre-season Who will be missing? Faraimo Naulago? (not sure if Fiji have any international commitments or if any army complexities around pre season etc) Connor Jones [uMa'u[/u'" Will be tuning into BBC in the morning to see how he goes against GB.

Quote ="Mrs Barista"Wait, what? There's a place for everyone's opinion, surely? Just be nice. Paul Hatton is ready and enjoying working with Purtill. https://www.hullfc.com/news/2019-10-25- ... pre-season Who will be missing? Faraimo Naulago? (not sure if Fiji have any international commitments or if any army complexities around pre season etc) Connor Jones [uMa'u[/u'" Will be tuning into BBC in the morning to see how he goes against GB.

Me too.

https://www.sthelensstar.co.uk/sport/17 ... ood-dream/

https://www.sthelensstar.co.uk/sport/17 ... ood-dream/

Nice offload amongst many for the second try and a bit of kicking thrown in as well.

Paul Cooke grubber



Injured now though, how predictable.

https://twitter.com/SuperLeague/status/ ... 3362728962 I know it's just a few highlights, but can't wait to see this one back in the fold. Bit of sparkle.

https://twitter.com/SuperLeague/status/ ... 3362728962 I know it's just a few highlights, but can't wait to see this one back in the fold. Bit of sparkle.

Quality, enjoyed that. Nice seeing some enthusiasm in the black and white

https://twitter.com/hullfcofficial/stat ... 26823?s=19 Some Ma'u highlights. Seems like his injury last week wasn't too bad as he's names in the Tonga squad for the weekend.

https://twitter.com/hullfcofficial/stat ... 26823?s=19 Some Ma'u highlights. Seems like his injury last week wasn't too bad as he's names in the Tonga squad for the weekend.

Never saw any report of him being injured but the team lists are out and he is there in a team with only one change,at half back, from the team that started against England. Noted he played on the left edge to accommodate Ben Murdoch-Masila who prefers the right edge. Linked up well with Lolohea although on one occasion he only had to take a pass and fall over the line but dropped it. Played for Parramatta on the right edge where he combined well with Moses.

Looking forward to seeing him in a bigger challenge against the Aussie pack. In the historic match in Auckland a year ago Aus beat them 34-16 so Tonga will be wanting to avenge that result.

He looks happy.