Cripes Powell really is a sore loser and has gone down in my estimations [url=https://www.pontefractandcastlefordexpress.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/castleford-tigers/powell-proud-of-castleford-players-despite-defeat-at-hull-1-9152785his comments here[/url​

Pity he fails to mention his own players infringements during the game but of course they lost so had to be the ref's fault.

Odd how he's overlooked their offsides at the two bombs they put up and scored from. From what i've seen at least one of their players appears offside on both kicks who then takes part in the play.

Exactly my point his players where offside when the kicks went up and try's were given, but he fails to mention that Shenton on both occasions was infront of Ellis (when he kicked) and played at the ball without being played back onside by Ellis . His whining would have had some merit had he mentioned those little infringements, just makes himself look a bigger than McDermott and that is an impressive achievement.

Need to look again at their tries but watched the Shaul try on SL show. One of those tries that the VR would have disallowed I'm afraid.

Still if theirs were offside we would still have won, so I guess DP would have been happy to be nilled if we had one try chalked off by the VR

Having watched the replay their first try is absolutely fine. The second one is impossible to tell because the chasers arent in the picture when the kick goes up. Shauls try I have seen get disallowed by VR before, but also seen them given. The tackle was still there to made if the Cas player wasnt more interested in appealing for a penalty.

As great a coach as he no doubt is, Powell has always been one of the biggest whingers in the game.

For me although I agree the Shaul try would more than likely have been ruled out players who are defending are now taking an easy option after making a poor defensive read. If you actually just watch Ellis he actually makes a decision to tackle Mini thinking he would receive the ball stopping Mini from running through the line before the ball is passed by Sneyd. Its now becoming prevalent in the game that defending players are actually deliberating making contact with a runner to gain a penalty. Its back to the problem when players where deliberating throwing the ball at a defending player at the ptb to gain a penalty. Ellis also deliberately ran into a defending player knowing he wouldn't get to the ball first when he put the chip over the top then promptly threw himself on the floor to gain a penalty.

Its a part of the game that really needs looking at and clarifying to stop the gamesmanship.

Was sat directly in line for the their first try and Shenton was about 2ft in front of Ellis when he put the kick up in the air.

Karen you are right, i will ignore.

Been saying about the bad read for ages. Some are clear obstruction but the bad read/throwing your arms up are becoming a problem, that the refereeing needs to address.

Not holding my breath with Ganson in charge

Thank you

Just don't know what you mean

From the disallowed obstructions that I've seen this year I don't think i've seen one where the obstructed player actually locks arms around the runner. They all tend to push off in an attempt to get to the man with the ball. For mine Ellis just makes a really bad read, he attempts to tackle mini which is why I think the ref let it go.

Why do the Rfl insist on making the obstruction rule so complicated , if the video ref as to look at 10 replays to decide , it's clearly not an obstruction. I think most rugby fans can take 1 look and decide if it's obstruction or not , it's pretty obvious , just got a bunch of numpties complicating it

Don't know its the rule itself that's too complicated. Problem is that all teams run plays that are running very close to the definition of obstruction without being quite there, and to respond defences are blurring the line further by over playing their response to suggest that there indeed was obstruction. All this of course is another example would of what would be easier to deal with if we had 2 refs.

"When your not on SKY the games is a shambles" ...

I think that's a bit contrary to popular opinion don't you...

I see Powell has evaluated the game now and has accepted it as a fair result.......... NOT. Happy reading. https://www.pontefractandcastlefordexpr ... -1-9156023

I see Powell has evaluated the game now and has accepted it as a fair result.......... NOT. Happy reading. https://www.pontefractandcastlefordexpr ... -1-9156023

I wonder what Powell thought about the clear knock on from Shenton in challenging the kick before Turner scored.

What a good looser Powell is, Hull fans should be grateful that Lenny doesn't sit and whinge about Refs like that, only moan about things you can control/influence.

A few familiar faces with Wagga on this week's Rugby AM, in and around the KCOM.

Good read that from Powell




He's lucky the refs weren't watching our for offsides from kicks or his team would have been nilled.

Powell is trying to claw something back after 2 comprehensive defeats against other top 4 candidates in their last 3 games.

They were well beaten

I can't remember Powell grumbling much about the officials after the home game they won earlier in the season - there were a couple of howlers in that. Referees are error prone but not inherently biased (unless its picking on the poor old dobbins of course). It might be hard to take a tough call at the time but they do even out over the season.

Radford mentions the referees decisions plenty of times, he usually says something like "baffling", I'm not saying he directly states these are the reasons for a loss but the mere fact he like all other coaches mention the refs frequently in that manner is in fact an admission (or moan if you will) that the referee had an influence by their decision making on the result.
Frankly I don't care if coaches moan about refs, what I care about as do many fans is the inconsistency of refereeing and the inability to deal with the infractions. By not dealing with them all the time you end up with players and indeed coaches just pushing the boundary of the laws and thus we have the spectacle that we have. Fans moan about letting a game flow but I for one would rather have 60 penalties a game (similar to what has happened in NRL early doors this season) with the refs pinging all sides all the time for the same infractions if it meant in the long run the game is cleaned up and coaches/players didn't take the micturate in how they play or coached to play. That makes it easier for the officials, it's easier on the eye to the fans and players are also less frustrated by what they feel other sides are getting away with.

The whole aspect of how the game is played and how we view it is controlled by the officials but also by the players/coaches who are trying to cheat the system as much as they can get away with for their benefit, you only have to look at the 'leeds' forward pass, too often let go by officials and so why change if you know 9/10 the officials won't do dick about it but it gains you an advantage on the field.

As a Cas fan, really cannot see what all the fuss is about.
There may have been one or two contentious decisions, there always are.
At the end of the day best team won,simple as.

Correct Dave sometimes you get then sometimes you don't on this occasion we got the rub of the green

Still think we'll finish above you, can't make my mind up on Radders. love the bloke and he's a breath of fresh air but other interviews I'm thinking please please shut up.