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| Quote ="fc baldy"Coach yes....Head coach not in a million years...out of his depth and man-management is attrocious.'"
agreed, he is a clueless fukwit as a head coach !! plain for everyone to see.
non of this crap about players drop balls and players miss tackles, a leaders main job is first and foremost to motivate his troops and get them all singing off the same hymn sheet, be it military, factory, or footie
our head coach is about as rivetting and enthusiastic as watching paint dry ... in doubt?? listen to his after match speach , frikkin rivetting he is must be a mate of John majors
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| everyone needs to spen and half hour perios slamming the contact us page with e mails, that will make them listen!!!
great team, great players great fans , awesome club
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| Quote ="GODS UNDERTAKER"agreed, he is a clueless fukwit as a head coach !! plain for everyone to see.
non of this crap about players drop balls and players miss tackles, a leaders main job is first and foremost to motivate his troops and get them all singing off the same hymn sheet, be it military, factory, or footie
our head coach is about as rivetting and enthusiastic as watching paint dry ... in doubt?? listen to his after match speach , frikkin rivetting he is must be a mate of John majors'"
Bit personal,surely not up to the job of head coach would of been sufficient enough??
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| 2 games for me. must win one and both perfomances need to be 100% better than recent ones.
If not put Moore in charge until a top replacemnet can be found.
It would cost Hull money to sack Agar, but they will lost a whole lot more in Season pass sales if we carry on like this, the Hull fans patiance has been excellent the last 2 years, but it wont last much longer.
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| Totally agree !! As many people as possible should take a little time out to use the "tell us" facility.
This cannot carry on !!
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| Quote ="wolfie"Bit personal,surely not up to the job of head coach would of been sufficient enough??'"
I agree with you there. I'm obviously not his biggest fan, as witnessed by my previous post, but on the couple of occasions I've spoken to him I have found him to be a decent honourable guy. Its his inability to coach at the upper level of SL that is my gripe (only my opinion obviously).
I don't think it is particularly big or clever to resort to personal insults about a guy whom most posters barely know from Adam.
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| Whether you express it in a personal way or not, Mr. Agar has now proved that he is not a suitable coach for a top club that wants to compete at the top level.
I am sick to death of hearing about "learning lessons", "cutting out mistakes", "playing less dumb rugby", "increasing intensity" etc. etc. etc. blah blah blah.
The top and bottom of it is that we have just lost to last years worst two teams and we have actually made them look good in the process. Were these two games just another two "blips" ??
Our current squad "should be" a top four squad but with Agar in charge we are going to tamely limp into the play-offs with no chance whatsoever of ultimate success.
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| Quote ="wolfie"Bit personal,surely not up to the job of head coach would of been sufficient enough??'"
NO ITS NOT ENOUGH WOLFIE!! NOT BY A LONG WAY!!
listen I wont fall out with you over it ok, you have done wonders for the club and fundraising etc and this rant isnt about you so why have you chirped in as if it is are you his PR man or something??
But the facts are no matter what spin you put on Agar after Salford he is clearly clueless as a coach or a motivator, I for one have defended him over and over during two awful seasons to allow the numptie to have a chance and prove he is up to the job and along with the vast majority of other FC fans can now clearly see he is not up to the job in any way shape or form!!
its as simple as that wolfie so no its not enough not by a long way pal!!
I have also met him a couple of times also and found him to be a nice fella in the few minutes I spoke to him, however I am not his lovechild and I would rather have a nasty SOAB that couldnt give a monkeys about speaking to fans as long as the team I spent hundreds of pounds each season to follow were playing a decent brand of RL which FC are NOT!!
AND given the chance I would tell him to his face too!!
This isnt about your relationship with Agar wolfie not one bit but it is about a grade A foottie team looking like NL1 contenders, like it or lump it mate but thats how many of us feel , I guess you did listen to what everyone was saying after the Salford match !!! !!!
Clueless AGAR OUT
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| Quote ="thehullwhitestar"Whether you express it in a personal way or not, Mr. Agar has now proved that he is not a suitable coach for a top club that wants to compete at the top level.
I am sick to death of hearing about "learning lessons", "cutting out mistakes", "playing less dumb rugby", "increasing intensity" etc. etc. etc. blah blah blah.
The top and bottom of it is that we have just lost to last years worst two teams and we have actually made them look good in the process. Were these two games just another two "blips" ??
and stop getting on your high horse,everytime a conversation pops up about agar my name seems to get dragged into it?
read what i put on an other thread about the team and the coach,im not deffending him i any shape or form,like ive said its not my decission wether he stays or goes it upto the board,whatever they choose to do ill back them as i said hfc are my team and i just want to see them win trophies,ive followed them through good times and bad since 1978,so seeing them under performing and losing hurts me just as much as you and everyone else.i just dont see the point in people insulting,if ive owt to say to him or anyone else ill say it to the face.
thats me done on the subject.
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| Quote ="wolfie"were have i stated this is about me???
chirp in?? i put a point across about you been personal and insulting him that it.
and what relationship is that then?? try and reply without been vulgar or insulting.
think you need to take a few of these
and stop getting on your high horse,everytime a conversation pops up about agar my name seems to get dragged into it?
read what i put on an other thread about the team and the coach,im not deffending him i any shape or form,like ive said its not my decission wether he stays or goes it upto the board,whatever they choose to do ill back them as i said hfc are my team and i just want to see them win trophies,ive followed them through good times and bad since 1978,so seeing them under performing and losing hurts me just as much as you and everyone else.i just dont see the point in people insulting,if ive owt to say to him or anyone else ill say it to the face.
thats me done on the subject.'"
What ever you say, you find it insulting to him ?? again if your not his PR agent then it does not matter, no whre have I been vulgar or anything else I am merely saying what I think about a coach that 99% of FC fans can see is a polished turd.
I am like many others on here think the guy is a clueless halfwit as a coach, nice guy and all that lovely stuff but as a coach he is useles ,
like you I have followed this club since I was 6 years old and we are looking down the barrel of mediocrity for a long time to come if we dont do something about it now...
take it which ever way you wish
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| TBF......fans of all sports are going to slate coaches if they are not performing, thousands of fans across the city will be saying insulting things about Agar today...tis the nature of the beast, part of the job.
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| Quote ="GODS UNDERTAKER"What ever you say, you find it insulting to him ?? again if your not his PR agent then it does not matter, no whre have I been vulgar or anything else I am merely saying what I think about a coach that 99% of FC fans can see is a polished turd.
I am like many others on here think the guy is a clueless halfwit as a coach, nice guy and all that lovely stuff but as a coach he is useles ,
like you I have followed this club since I was 6 years old and we are looking down the barrel of mediocrity for a long time to come if we dont do something about it now...
take it which ever way you wish'"
wasnt this a post of yours?
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non of this crap about players drop balls and players miss tackles, a leaders main job is first and foremost to motivate his troops and get them all singing off the same hymn sheet, be it military, factory, or footie
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| Quote ="wolfie"wasnt this a post of yours?
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I think GodsUndertaker was being complimentary after last nights results
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| Quote ="GODS UNDERTAKER"agreed, he is a clueless fukwit as a head coach !! plain for everyone to see.
non of this crap about players drop balls and players miss tackles, a leaders main job is first and foremost to motivate his troops and get them all singing off the same hymn sheet, be it military, factory, or footie
our head coach is about as rivetting and enthusiastic as watching paint dry ... in doubt?? listen to his after match speach , frikkin rivetting he is must be a mate of John majors'"
got to admit, that comments funny as fook
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| Quote ="wolfie"thats me done on the subject.'"
clearly not PR guru to the coaches
Listen wolfie , take a moment and read ....I am not alone here....
stop being so sensitive love!!
Black & white legend : To all the AGAR supporters who believe he should remain i cant believe you accept this dross.& AGAR should be sacked now.
ULLFC : Agar's body language is so lifeless, he just sits there like a spectator all game...actually no, the spectators show more passion and interest.
HULLMAD: complacency came back and bit Agar on the ar$e.
1000%HULLFC : He fails to inspire.
FC BALDY: he has a clique of players and this is wrong and his "Bullying" of certain players is shocking.
DABHAND : he's like a rabbit in the headlights.He only has a Plan A and if that doesn't work we have had it.
HULL WHITE STAR: Agar has to go as soon as possible.
MONKO : Agar has to go now because he simply is not good enough at this level.
TECHNO: answers on Agars P45 please.
WORKSOP FC : Mr Agar do us all a favour and leave now please.
BUBBASHRIMP: Don't let this man drag some of the very good players we have in our squad be dragged down to agars very average level.GO NOW.
SMIGGS : TBH I don't think there's been any overreaction to what we've seen tonight so stick with it and have your say.
WESTJBA: with him at the helm, we will never be a title pushing side, AGAR GO NOW.
WILEMAN HFC: but is an idiot when it comes to motivation and tacticts.
SUPER SUB TERRY DAY : This guy is out of his depth, he has a shocking record as a coach.
THE BOSUN: Dead man talking it seemed to me.
and the one that says it all is.....
[u KOSH: Different players to last two seasons, same faults on display. Wonder what the common factor is?[/u
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| Quote ="berrigans bitch"TBF......fans of all sports are going to slate coaches if they are not performing, thousands of fans across the city will be saying insulting things about Agar today...tis the nature of the beast, part of the job.'"
i agree,but like ive said i dont see many threads on here slating the players from last night,seems when e lose people automaticaly steam into agar cos they cant think of anyone else to shove the blame on,when we win tho nowts said about him,maybe he isnt the right man for the job and will be replaced anytime soon.
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| Quote ="berrigans bitch"I think GodsUndertaker was being complimentary after last nights results
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I doubt there can be many fans now who have even a glimmer of faith in Agar now, shocking shocking shocking.
Salford and co should be meat and potatoes and points in the bag to a club like FC, and when these lower level clubs do pull off a decent win as they do every year WHY THE FOOK DOES IT ALWAYS HAVE TO BE AGAINST US????
after Salford and Crusaders does anyone think we are a worry to any other team anymore ??
absolutely not we are now viewed as "there for the taking"
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| Quote ="wolfie"i agree,but like ive said i dont see many threads on here slating the players from last night,seems when e lose people automaticaly steam into agar cos they cant think of anyone else to shove the blame on,when we win tho nowts said about him,maybe he isnt the right man for the job and will be replaced anytime soon.'"
The man in the big chair who makes the shouts get the bullet if it doesnt work... thats how it works
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| Quote ="wolfie"i agree,but like ive said i dont see many threads on here slating the players from last night,seems when e lose people automaticaly steam into agar cos they cant think of anyone else to shove the blame on,when we win tho nowts said about him,maybe he isnt the right man for the job and will be replaced anytime soon.'"
TBF Wolfie if you read the threads they are critical of the players...however at some point you have to accept the responsibility lies at Agars feet..
He fails to drop players who are constantly performing poorly...(Briscoe)..yet drops others at the drop of a hat..(Hall)
We have one of the best players I have ever seen..(Fitz)..Agar is flogging the man to death, yet fails to utilise..Washy & Moa hardly, in order to rest Fitz..He never even spells Fitz in a game..but take Berro off every bl00dy game!!
His away record is poor, his selections are poor, his interchanges are poor...
And I have supported him and defended him but I am afraid he appears to be failing.
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| Quote ="berrigans bitch"TBF Wolfie if you read the threads they are critical of the players...however at some point you have to accept the responsibility lies at Agars feet..
His away record is poor, his selections are poor, his interchanges are poor...
And I have supported him and defended him but I am afraid he appears to be failing.'"
Ok lets look at the players and not Agar ( but remember who puts them on the team sheet though!!)
who is letting us down..
Radford : Looks like a s horse he blows so much , ever Agar must see he is shot to bits and past it!
Dowes: does it show in the stats anywhere if this guy has ever broken a tackle in an SL match ??
Yeaman: how long are we going to persist with a player who is still living off the reputation of one decent season 3 years ago?? and since has been pants at best .
Berrigan : this isnt the SOO player that I remember or the player who tore GB apart time after time test after test...
there is four to start with ...
and Agar continues to pick them ??
Mr Agar if you ever wake up and feel a sharp apin in your back it may be that backbone starting to grow !! but i doubt you will feel it..
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| Quote ="wolfie"i agree,but like ive said =#0000FFi dont see many threads on here slating the players from last night,seems when e lose people automaticaly steam into agar cos they cant think of anyone else to shove the blame on,when we win tho nowts said about him,maybe he isnt the right man for the job and will be replaced anytime soon.'"
You're not looking hard enough. There's been plenty of criticism of the players, both as individuals and a group. The simple fact is, though, that when a side with a large proportion of new players demonstrates all the same faults that the last group of players exhibited, the finger of blame is going to get pointed at the one common factor. The coach.
Oh and BTW - I [ido[/i credit him when we do well and have commented on the unfairness of only ever blaming rather than praising.
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| Quote ="GODS UNDERTAKER"clearly not
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He has a point. There is absolutely no reason for personal insults, either about Agar or other posters. This is an area you seem to struggle with all the time. Civility costs nothing.
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| You really only have to look at Wigan this season to see what difference a coach can make.
McGuire inherited virtually the same side that Noble left last year - but they're obviously in a completely different league to last season.
Same players - utterly different level of motivation. Roberts being the finest example. Only one person can be responsible for that and that's the coach. Many thought Noble was hard done to last season after taken Wigan to decent play-off runs for the last two seasons (a finer record than Agar's it must be said) but Wigan's board has clearly been vindicated for their "brave" decision.
If Hull are going to do this then they need to make that decision sooner rather than later. I've got a big feeling of deja vu now, and guess Agar won't need more than the Easter period to confirm for me that this season is going the same way as the last two. If that's proven, the board must be brave and act then, I'm afraid.
I do, however, sincerely hope that I am wrong and we blast Rovers off the CP pitch, hammer Wire into the KC park then go and show the "Champions" why it's Bluey that should be the first coach to go. But who really thinks that is going to happen now?
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