hung drawn and quatered in 7 games with 2 losses..well well well...i wonder if mick potter has had the same effect on the saints forum??? or terry matterson on the cas forum??? jeeeeezus give the bloke a break its his first yr with his team not sharpys.im sure he will rectify his mistakes after all his tactics won hull 5 games and nearly 6 if mr tickle had had his kicking boots on so it would have been 1 loss in 7 games unfortunately danny didnt so we have to take it on the chin,other than the second half against quins i would be very happy with the results.

And you have a go at us for being sensible

Before I read the first ten pages of this thread, IS IT A SACK AGAR THREAD?

No, itsn't.

It's more of a "we hope we learn lessons" thread.

Ok good because there would be no need for a thread of that nature, Jeez after last season i'd have thought you'd be happy to be sat in the position you are in currently. You aren't going to be playing brilliant rugby week in and week out especially in bogs like that

The concern people have is the peole on the bench, and how it gets used.

And also the fact that we struggle fo a Plan B

It's interesting because Rich Horne was on the radio the other week saying that Agar and Sharp had told him and Thorman to play more of the cuff and play what they see. So if that's the case (and why would he make it up ?) then we should see more of what we saw agaist Bradford and to a lesser extent Hudds. I do believe the instructions were to keep it tight at Quins due to the conditions. That's exactly what Quins did and as a result of better overall enthusiasm levels won the match playing that way.

Yo may well be right, I just thought we looked stifled against Cas and Quins.

Put it this way, after Salford, Rovers and Saints we'll have a clearer idea.

I think against Cas we stifled ourselves by chucking the ball away at almost every opportunity. Agree with your last point.

quite right. One we should beat, one equal and one were not expected to win, 3 big games that will tell us were we are.

Anyhow dont worry it says in todays mail Agar will teach our lads how to Dominate.
Phew, We should be ok then !

When you read the article it reads - we must be more boring to win

Jeez Im taking a pillow to the Salford game then !!!!

Sorry, but the call to kick etc. should have gone out DURING THE GAME, if we learn lessons after each game then we'll never "dominate" anyone.

And by the way, if we need to be taught how to dominate then Horne/Thorman/Radford/Cusack/Dowes/King must have never seen a professional RL game before.

I'm struggling to find a plan A!!!

Plan A

Drive
Drive
Drive - pass wide, drop off ball back inside
Drive
Kick

repeat

FC are the SL equivalent of Bananarama, verse and chorus all the way!

Only not as fit.... Keren Woodward.....mmmmm!

The conditions on sat must of been similar to that of pre season training. Did they just learn the 5 drivers and a kick. Surely they must of learnt summit more. We must of had 12-15 tackles on their line before we got the penalty that we kicked. Why didnt we go for 6 points at that stage with field posistion at a premium. 2 points at that stage of the game wouldnt of meant much. Other teams would of gone for the 6

Amen brother!

I think that was Radford/Tickles decision, certainly didn't see any obvious direction coming from the bench as to go for the 2?

Probably panicked after the cas score, and wanted to get in there for an easy 2 points...but then it all went T*ts up from there

Because we are clueless especially when we are at the oppositions line.

I could not understand that either playing against a side that was possibly a little fragile at the start of the match due to the heavy defeat the week before. More often then not if you have 12-20 tackles none stop on a teams line you can find a way over but we decided the 2 was to be taken and then have to cart the ball back out of our half on a heavy pitch.

Hey I am now wondering what I was worried about, no problem now,, 10 mins every day he will tell them to dominate other teams phew!!! coaching at its best huh!!
funny cos I read it to say we have to be more boring and un challenging but grind teams down!!
Wonder if Charlie Stone & co is doing anything this weekend!! cos they were the masters of domination and cant do worse!!