I think you may have a point. However, he was the coach so i will give him credit for them victories.

That's a big risk with any decent young coach from the NRL, do two years in SL make a name for themselves then go back, however I'd take that if in that two years they could get us back on track.

If you do appoint from overseas,, it certainly won't be this season, with that's going on in the world.

Sean Long has been added at 20/1. Interesting one... is he still an assistant in Union?

Never said any of the above but pragmatism is a handy tool.
Wake up and smell the cocoa, or even better, have a historical look at our record book.

I'd take that risk of a good quality coach coming in to prove themselves to make a name back in the NRL even if only here two years but laid the foundations and structures in place and had success whilst here. St's have done numerous times and it has served them very well.

Ultimately we need the right man for the job, in saying that I thought both Last & Purtill have said some interesting stuff and the fact they have stressed that changes have had and needed to be changed since the Warrington game is encouraging.

Is that at our longest ever SL losing streak or embarrassing heaviest defeat?

He couldn't dine out on cup wins forever.

Lee Radford will go down in history for the two CC wins that there is no argument from anyone. What will also go down in history is the seasons that followed the humiliating and heavy losses, throwing away a play off berth, the failure to reach the grand final as they took the foot off the gas after the Cup win. It was clear from the off when Radford replaced Gentle that one on the major goals that had to be achieved was the gap between good and bad performances had to be narrowed and be much more consistent.
The sad fact is this is one area that LR failed to change infact I would even say we have been more hit and miss since winning the cups than we ever were under Gentle and in the context of things Radford has had far better squads than Gentle had.

In sport the saying is you are only as good as your last game and frankly other then Leeds at the start of the season we have not been good enough even in the wins against Rovers at home and away at Wakey.

Even Purtill in his interview has stated "everyone will stick their hands up and say they were nowhere near good enough. We’ve had some honesty between each other as the last couple of performances weren’t good enough. In fact, what we’ve dished up in our first few games has not been up to the standards we’ve set".

This isnt just in isolation of this season its been going on for too many seasons now yet everything had been changed other than the coach.

Would much rather a proven coach like nathan brown or daryl powell, this group of players has proven itl take the biscuit if allowed. Much rather an authortive figure than an unproven up and coming coach.

Time to move onto the next level in regards to coaching standards too

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I’d give it to Last / Purtill until the end of the year.
AP has enough on keeping the club going at the moment, along with the rest of the Super League owners.
Take our time, get the right man in for next year. Gives us something to sell season tickets on the back of.

makes sense, also factor in travel restrictions etc. etc.

Even if fitz wanted itand got it, would he risk moving himself and his family at the moment, would anyone?

There is no rest of the Season

you clearly know something the RFL and SL chairmen don't.. do share.

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It’s over - the season has no chance of being finished

I don’t need to read the Mail for that

HE HAS GONE the name of the subject for debate not about a new coach not about a new captain not about slating certain players. It is about Lee Radford leaving the club I think he was unfortunate with injuries but that's part of being a head coach. I also think the way he was dismissed appalling but the owner can do as he likes we have no say in the matter. But when it comes down to the fans Lee Radford should be able to say goodbye and the fans who believe what he did for the club was amazing.could show their appreciation for the man I think this should be done the first home game if this season ever continues.

I not sure I agree to be honest, how many coaches is sport when sacked due to the results and performances not being up to the expectations and targets get the opportunity to say good bye to the fans? He has gone and as a club we move on and so will Lee.

Yes he brought two Challenge Cups back and was the first Coach to get a Wembley win and he will go down in history for that and will always be held in the fans affections for that. That said since the last win we have failed to deliver any real challenge to the league and GF and a string or woeful performances and record defeats and in reality his dismissal should have come before the end of last season.

He’ll only want to wave goodbye to the away fans won’t he

what was appaling about it?

Interesting article in the HDM by Carney who had a conversation with Lee Radford about the players mentality and application not being upto scratch. Basically saying even players were fit , they wernt performing upto scratch.

Kinda begs the questions which players do we still have which match the description

they all start with a clean slate, Lee had become part of the problem, hopefully Purtill is part of the solution.

Apologies for straying off topic but the other part of the Brian Carney interview is an interesting read about his brief spell at Hull FC.

Funny to think of him living in a flat down Boulevard.

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Agree but it seems that Last is the one who now has the coach title not Purtill
I dont get this handing down the job to the assistant coach as he must have had an imput into everything Radford did and therefore in my eyes just as culpable as Radford
I realise the club are looking for a new head coach but Last has been part of the failure and should also have been shown the door.
The problem for me is when a new coach is appointed Last is likely to keep his job as Pearson is hardly likely to say to him thanks for standing in Andy but your services are no longer required.

I agree, Last has been at the club for 20 years, assistant coach for 13 or so of those, anyone who spends that long as an assistant lacks one of two things, ability or ambition (imho). Now I am sure there will be a lot of posters who start calling me names and saying what a great lad Andy is, or 'Lasty' as some will refer to him, if he gets a chance to shine (which seems increasingly unlikely with every passing day) but if he does, and he does shine (by virtue of the team performances) then he will get my support, but when I read "He has been responsible for the production of a long line of homegrown players such as Josh Bowden, Chris Green, Dean Hadley, Reece Lyne, Tom Briscoe and Tommy Lee." I am not filled with confidence, I hope he does prove me wrong [iif[/i he gets chance.

I know he's done some assistant coaching at representative level but I wonder if he's ever been offered (or applied for) a head coach role at a Championship or League One club. Kind of worrying if he's just happy to stay in the same background role for year after year.

Who knows what is being (has been) said behind the scenes, and how Coronavirus and the subsequent suspension of the season has changed decisions that had been made.

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