If its like in other sports they should have agreed preset criteria, such as XXX NRL games, no convictions of certain severity etc.

Until he moved to NZ it was colourful to say the least, but I don't think it included any criminal convictions.

The club issues a certificate of sponsorship and that must be used within 3 months of issue to support a visa application, so if done today it would expire on 23 September. On that basis there's no reason why the club can't (if the deal is done) do that now. Seymour then applies for the visa, and if everything is OK it would normally be issued from Oz in 3-4 weeks. Last visa application I did from there was done is about that. The only problem is that in their wisdom, UKBA have centralised the South Asia/Australasia visa operation at a hub in Manila, which in my view adds to the delay

It does make me wonder how the FA and football manage to secure work permits and visa's so easily. I cannot think of any pro football player in recent times been refused a visa. Maybe the RFL should have words with the FA and see how its done.

They can't agree preset criteria on convictions as they're linked to the individual and have to be considered, as Crocker's was, separately. What they could agree is that anyone who has a fine of more than £X, or has spent any time in clink, for example, shouldn't bother applying. The visa application has to be balanced between the requirement to have the person here for UK economic reasons and the need to stop dodgy people getting here (which is why I wouldn't have refused Crocker - regardless of my loyalties)

I suspect a lot of the football preparation etc goes on before any hint of a deal, but you can do visa transfers in the UK very quickly (there's a super premium application process that apparently only Arsenal have used - it's about £15000 per application).

yes, I did derail the thread a bit with this

it was obviously a very worthwhile "derail" though.

Most of his indiscretions were regarding the breaking of club rules due to drinking and timekeeping etc.

However I do remember (vaguely) that he was involved in a fight at some stage but not sure if the police were involved?

Agreed! No ban for downtheante, this time!

I post on here less these days for EXACTLY the reasons posted above. Very well said sir.

I seem to remember an article saying about charges against him being dropped.

No charges laid, and his other misdemeanour was for being drunk on a night out but again no charges.

think it could be curtains for Horne .

garry brindley

I agree, let's only post positives because that will significantly increase the debate

Spot on

Maybe they have already made Horne the highest offer they are prepared to do and he's found somewhere else who will pay him more?

or maybe Horne wants to call it a day

or maybe he's staying

Still think he may get a year deal,but wouldn't be surprised.

He'll be staying, we don't have another natural 6 at the club.

I hope it's on a reduced deal if he is staying.

Can't see him going anywhere else.

6 Seymour
7 Ellis

Obst as back up.

Maybe?

Thats not what he said atall, and tbh it is also pretty typical of exactly the point he was making.

FWIW I agree with the bulk of his comment, there are are a fair few historic posters that dont post anymore for whatever reason.

Possibly, there are definate options without Horne but I just don't see a natural 6 with Horne's running game, certainly not from Seymour or Ellis.

I think above all else Horne deserves a new deal as he has been in good form for us this season. In terms of a reduced contract I don't know as I don't know what he earns now.