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| Quote ="Kosh"The two are not mutually exclusive you know. My whole point on this thread has been that our squad isn't as good as some seem to think, and therefore when you remove 9 of the better players from it you get results like today.'"
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"Sorry I thought you said fans are "happy" to accept mediocrity. One man's excuse is another man's reason. Some might say your reasons are also excuses. I agree with you by the way we are carrying some poor players and it will take time to resolve for the reasons I posted earlier.'"
Apologies, I should clarify, there are far too many FC fans who seem happy to accept total mediocrity, like the people that applaud "local" players regardless, we were crap last week and again this, I don't blame Gnetle/Pearson, they inherited a largely below average squad.
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| Quote ="Standee"having read the threads about Manu I thought he was a one man team?'"
And if you've read any of my post on Manu you'd know that's not a view I subscribe to.
Quote ="Standee"seriously, not unexpected todday, but to read it being applauded is laughable, we have been crap.'"
Maybe you could list the post applauding the result? I seem to be unable to find any.
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| It will take a couple of years until an injury crisis doesn't affect us as much.
We've had years of next to none of the youngsters getting any game time, and a coach who would rather play people out of position. Now all the injuries have come along we have to rely on young kids who have no big game experience. Gentle has already shown he is willing to address that. Like I said, it's going to take a couple of years (at least) until the youngsters can come into the team (if they haven't already got starting positions) and beat the bigger teams.
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| Quote ="The Bomber IS Back"Which means whoever signed them needs their head banging
You don't sign a player for the sake of it mate.'"
Think you'll find that the people who signed Ellis are no longer involved with the club. The same applies for the majority of our squad, good or bad.
Gentle is doing the best he can with what's available. The problem is that a fair few people seem to have thought that Agar was the only thing stopping us from storming the top 4 when in fact there's a huge job of work to be done.
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| Am I the only one in here that thinks Kosh is totally deluded?!
We was comprehensively beating today with 8 of our first team players playing.
3 players missing in key positions, horne, seymour, yeaman... and we get absolute drumming...
How the hell can Hull fans be happy with that!
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| Quote ="Kosh"And if you've read any of my post on Manu you'd know that's not a view I subscribe to.
Maybe you could list the post applauding the result? I seem to be unable to find any.'"
apologies, I'd credited you with more intelligence than thinking I was always responding directly to your posts, I'd forgotten your arrogance Kosh.
I must remember, mods are always right, even when being myopic and moronic. my bad.
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| Quote ="The Bomber IS Back"Am I the only one in here that thinks Kosh is totally deluded?!'"
Almost certainly not. In fact I can probably name the posters willing to agree wholeheartedly with you.
Quote ="The Bomber IS Back"We was comprehensively beating today with 8 of our first team players playing.'"
You realise that's fewer than half of them, right?
Quote ="The Bomber IS Back"How the hell can Hull fans be happy with that!'"
Who's happy?
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| Quote ="Hasbag"It will take a couple of years until an injury crisis doesn't affect us as much.
We've had years of next to none of the youngsters getting any game time, and a coach who would rather play people out of position. Now all the injuries have come along we have to rely on young kids who have no big game experience. Gentle has already shown he is willing to address that. Like I said, it's going to take a couple of years (at least) until the youngsters can come into the team (if they haven't already got starting positions) and beat the bigger teams.'"
At least 2 years. And as Gentle alluded to earlier in the week you can't get away with putting lots of unproven youngsters in a team in SL. It's a man's game and some of these guys are boys. Only the very best succeed in this game and today we have had several as yet unproven young players playing against possibly the best men playing in the league. Not excuses just facts.
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| Quote ="Standee"apologies, I'd credited you with more intelligence than thinking I was always responding directly to your posts, I'd forgotten your arrogance Kosh.
I must remember, mods are always right, even when being myopic and moronic. my bad.'"
I get a bit of stick on here, but if you go back and read Kosh's posts, he contradicts himself that many times, and the worse thing is he never ever agrees with anything anyone has to say, unless it's someone agreeing to his post.
What pee's me off the most, most people agree with him, or lick his ass purely because he's a mod, or they keep their mouth shut.
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| Quote ="Standee"apologies, I'd credited you with more intelligence than thinking I was always responding directly to your posts, I'd forgotten your arrogance Kosh.
I must remember, mods are always right, even when being myopic and moronic. my bad.'"
Ah, right. So when you quoted my post you weren't replying directly to me? Silly me.
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| The thing is, Kosh gets stick because others disagree with his opinion which is fair enough. Same goes with the negative vs positive fans. The worrying thing for you is that you get stick because you're plain thick.
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| Quote ="The Bomber IS Back"Am I the only one in here that thinks Kosh is totally deluded?!'"
Probably not but I'd hazard a guess there are far more who think that of you.
Quote We was comprehensively beating today with 8 of our first team players playing.'"
Yes unfortunately SL isn't 8 a side.
Quote 3 players missing in key positions, horne, seymour, yeaman... and we get absolute drumming...'"
You don't think that any of the forwards missing would have made us a bit tougher up front against the likes of Hock/O Loughlin etc. ?
Quote How the hell can Hull fans be happy with that!'"
Only someone deluded (or a KR fan such as yourself) would suggest that any FC fan is happy today.
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| Dissapointing to concede so many points but it was always going to happen. Just underlines what a total mess Agar/Hetherington and co left the playing side of the club in. On the plus side its valuable experience for the young lads
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| Hopefully no more injuries picked up.
A week off is going to be an absolute blessing I believe.
After watching them last night I can't see Salford giving Leeds any kind of a game next weekend, but I really hope they come out firing and give them a rough time. It's going to need another almighty performance to get the points from that game in a fortnight.
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| Pretty much what I expected, shipped more points than I hoped for but not surprised. Ellis and Nicklas v Finch and Leuluai was the key mis-match IMO; some good efforts in the forwards especially Pitts who looks very much a Gentle style of play recruit. Moa and Lynch put in big stints again. I hope Martin is OK. Looks to me to be injured from the off.
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| Quote ="The Bomber IS Back"I get a bit of stick on here, but if you go back and read Kosh's posts, he contradicts himself that many times, and the worse thing is he never ever agrees with anything anyone has to say, unless it's someone agreeing to his post.'"
So I only agree with people that I agree with? Stunning insight there.
Quote ="The Bomber IS Back"What pee's me off the most, most people agree with him, or lick his ass purely because he's a mod, or they keep their mouth shut.'"
I can assure you that nobody on here gives a fig about me being a mod when it comes to agreeing or disagreeing with me. Why would they? It's irrelevant.
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| Quote ="Sebasteeno"Dissapointing to concede so many points but it was always going to happen. Just underlines what a total mess Agar/Hetherington and co left the playing side of the club in. On the plus side its valuable experience for the young lads'"
Way too positive for this thread, Seb.
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"At least 2 years. And as Gentle alluded to earlier in the week you can't get away with putting lots of unproven youngsters in a team in SL. It's a man's game and some of these guys are boys. Only the very best succeed in this game and today we have had several as yet unproven young players playing against possibly the best men playing in the league. Not excuses just facts.'"
We are now seeing, the non-investment by the previous regime into the youth team.
Now Pearson has pumped funds into the youth structure, fans have to be patient and realistic.
We will suffer the rollercoaster syndrome for some time yet.
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"Probably not but I'd hazard a guess there are far more who think that of you.
Yes unfortunately SL isn't 8 a side.
You don't think that any of the forwards missing would have made us a bit tougher up front against the likes of Hock/O Loughlin etc. ?
Only someone deluded (or a KR fan such as yourself) would suggest that any FC fan is happy today.'"
I'm thick because most deluded s on here can't see past their Hull F.C tinted specs.
We are an average team fact, take away our better players we are a pile of e! We have a large fan base, big merchandise and high expectations from the fans to be a force in Superleague, but the past 4 seasons have been e, agar and auntie kath ruining the club and signing e players.
Manu, Tickle, Westerman, Yeaman, Briscoe, Moa, O'Meley, Mckinnon, Turner are excellent players.
Sharp (played well of late), Horne, Seymour, Whiting, Ellis, Martyn, Lyne, not good enough imho.
We have O'Meley, Moa, Manu possibly going at the end of the season, and certain players rumored to go back to aus, take them players out of the equation, add Ellis who we just signed, coupled with the fact we'll still probably give Horne another bloody contract.
Do the maths.
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| Quote ="The Bomber IS Back"I'm thick because most deluded lovers on here can't see past their Hull F.C tinted specs.
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You're thick because;
a) You think Seymour is playing for most of the game.
b) You think Sharp is our coach.
c) You think you have flu, but can go to Asda for your missus.
d) You say 'Gentle out' after 1 loss.
And that's from only 3 match threads. Every week you come on here and embarrass yourself.
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| Quote ="Old_Faithful_IAKW"You're thick because;
a) You think Seymour is playing for most of the game.
b) You think Sharp is our coach.
c) You think you have flu, but can go to Asda for your missus.
d) You say 'Gentle out' after 1 loss.
And that's from only 3 match threads. Every week you come on here and embarrass yourself.'"
I'm not thick one bit, I've got a better head on my shoulders than you, carry on being a cocky b4stard and i'll take yours off.
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| The fact you don't think Whiting is good enough renders anything you say just not worth listening to.
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| Quote ="The Bomber IS Back"I'm thick because most deluded lovers on here can't see past their Hull F.C tinted specs.
We are an average team fact, take away our better players we are a pile of poop! We have a large fan base, big merchandise and high expectations from the fans to be a force in Superleague, but the past 4 seasons have been poop, agar and auntie kath ruining the club and signing poop players.
Manu, Tickle, Westerman, Yeaman, Briscoe, Moa, O'Meley, Mckinnon, Turner are excellent players.
Sharp (played well of late), Horne, Seymour, Whiting, Ellis, Martyn, Lyne, not good enough imho.
We have O'Meley, Moa, Manu possibly going at the end of the season, and certain players rumored to go back to aus, take them players out of the equation, add Ellis who we just signed, coupled with the fact we'll still probably give Horne another bloody contract.
Do the maths.
poop'"
Lol your a funny one. Bless ya. Nevermind its bedtime soon.
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