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| I would go with Shaul. Be a fast track and even though IMO he's lost a yard of pace he's still nippy. Hopefully Sao Tuime Vuni back. Halfback gonna be the main call. Do we go with Gale lovaduo? Or Hookem?
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| Quote ="mwindass"Is it worth rolling the dice with Litten?'"
We're not winning anything this year so I'd gladly see us lose a couple of games if it meant we gave Litten and Hookem a chance to see what they can both do. Could save us some money and transfer hassle going into next year if they look up to it.
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| Bottom line 18/6 up 14 min to go we should have closed the game out. Where's Sneyd when you want him lol
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| Not sure if the club see Hookem as a 9 now.
That's the position he's been playing for Whitehaven
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| Quote ="Hasbag"We're not winning anything this year so I'd gladly see us lose a couple of games if it meant we gave Litten and Hookem a chance to see what they can both do. Could save us some money and transfer hassle going into next year if they look up to it.'" We haven't won a Grand Final ever. So every time we have a bad result we throw the kids in . If it's last couple of games can see it. But until it's mathematically not possible to win the GF we play our best team. I would never see us gladly lose a few games never. We play our best team and give it our best shot. Trouble with us ATM we are inconsistent and in fairness sort of one or two top class players. But I still believe we put our best team out we can on any given day beat most teams.
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| Quote ="hull2524"Bottom line 18/6 up 14 min to go we should have closed the game out. Where's Sneyd when you want him lol'"
its not the first time this season Gale has let us down with drop goal attempts
He is just not the player we saw at Cas where he had a great short kicking game.and nailed drop goals.
We have seen nothing like this from him
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| Quote ="bonaire"It shouldnt be difficult for any coach to instill discipline on the field yet with this guy its water off a ducks back and is never rectified.
Five penalties given away today on the first tackle in the opposition 10 relieving all the pressure and giving them a leg up field.
Fans think we are unfit yet the amount of unnecessary extra defence we put on ourselves from penalties,errors and six agains is the reason not the fitness.
One thing is now certain Gale and Reynolds both need replacing.
Hodgsons signings so he needs to accept the responsibilty and we dont need to know how good Gale is around the club.Get rid and leave him to his TV appearances with channel 4.'"
In regards to the penalties I seriously question the performance of Griffiths in the way he officiated. Our first try was a mile forward yet he awarded it and then seemed to spend the rest of the game making up for that error. The 6 agains I fail to see how Wakefield were doing anything differently to us to give so few away in comparison. He let Wakefield get away with 2 knocks before finally giving the decision on the 3rd one
The game should have been over at halftime but in true Hull FC style at Wakefield we tend to find a way to lose. Once Connor went off any threat from our halves evaporated.
Not sure why Mau was brought off unless it was he’d picked up an injury.
Serious questions now need to asked about Gales future at the club as when needed he failed to be the guiding hand to control things in the second half. Epitomised by the poor set up and execution of the drop goal attempts after great work to get in range.
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| Quote ="Woods1969"Problem is CAS fans would love us to take Trueman now , saying he is just terrible so are we actually improving the halfback position if we have signed him'"
Have you watched Trueman?
He's the standout in a poor Cas team, go check his try and assists record. Would bring alot to our team definitely. He's playing behind a poor pack and still producing
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| We need creativity with ball in hand, Reynolds isn't producing it. Put Lovodua back there. We're also lacking direction and quality kicking from 7, question is where do we find that from?
I think Hodgson has to make a call on Gale, its once again another game he's simply not done what he was brought in to do. Do we try Hookem there as its the teams biggest problem when looking for a solution.
I think we tidied up the penalties lately with some good solid home wins, unfortunately it reared its ugly head again today, hopefully Sao, and Carlos are back as I'm still not sold on Scott and Wynne who sounded very ropey today.
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| Quote ="Rocknrolla69er"We need creativity with ball in hand, Reynolds isn't producing it. Put Lovodua back there. We're also lacking direction and quality kicking from 7, question is where do we find that from?
I think Hodgson has to make a call on Gale, its once again another game he's simply not done what he was brought in to do. Do we try Hookem there as its the teams biggest problem when looking for a solution.
I think we tidied up the penalties lately with some good solid home wins, unfortunately it reared its ugly head again today, hopefully Sao, and Carlos are back as I'm still not sold on Scott and Wynne who sounded very ropey today.'"
I think that’s unfair to say that Scott & Wynne sounded ropey as they were both pretty solid. Thought Scott played well considering he’s been out a while, Wynne was a menace at centre and stood in at FB after being moved there when Connor went off.
The kicking from both Reynolds and Gale was poor in particular Gales. We do not seem to possess any grubber kicking ability or use it as an option to turn the opposition and maintain pressure.
We could probably give Gale & Reynolds until Xmas but sadly wouldn’t see much improvement. If we are to seriously push from here we need to replace both of them for next season. We also have to stop flogging Houghton for 80 mins every week as it’s a bigger minus than a plus doing it. As good as Lovodua has been personally thought today wasn’t one of his best games. We h
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| Quote ="Rocknrolla69er"Have you watched Trueman?
He's the standout in a poor Cas team, go check his try and assists record. Would bring alot to our team definitely. He's playing behind a poor pack and still producing'"
Only seen him on sky just going by fans that watch him regularly are saying but as a previous poster has said it does look like most have a bit of a downer on him
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| Quote ="Rocknrolla69er"Have you watched Trueman?
He's the standout in a poor Cas team, go check his try and assists record. Would bring alot to our team definitely. He's playing behind a poor pack and still producing'"
Every time Cas made a break/half break he wasn't too far away.
Peach of a ball for Edens try yesterday too.
I was sceptical about his signing but I think he'll be a breath of fresh air. A proper running/support playing half
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| Has a bit of pace about him to
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| Quote ="hull2524"Has a bit of pace about him to'"
A half with pace, what's one of them?
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| Quote ="Rocknrolla69er"We need creativity with ball in hand, Reynolds isn't producing it. Put Lovodua back there. We're also lacking direction and quality kicking from 7, question is where do we find that from?
I think Hodgson has to make a call on Gale, its once again another game he's simply not done what he was brought in to do. Do we try Hookem there as its the teams biggest problem when looking for a solution.
I think we tidied up the penalties lately with some good solid home wins, unfortunately it reared its ugly head again today, hopefully Sao, and Carlos are back as I'm still not sold on Scott and Wynne who sounded very ropey today.'"
Wynne was playing well until moved to full back and from there had a nightmare.
Hodgson slow to respond to this but instead of moving Griffin to full back where he has played before and Wynne back into the centre he shuffled it around and moved McIntosh to full back.Wynne after this was mouthing off at some of his team mates so dont be surprised if he is missing for the next game.
If Carlos is not fit then i would bring Mitch back to right centre and play Lovodua at 6 which tightens up the defence and where we have seen the best of Lovodua up to now.
Jamie Shaul to full back and leave McIntosh on the wing.
Not the game to see Gale removed but in reality he needs to be replaced
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| Quote ="Rocknrolla69er"Have you watched Trueman?
He's the standout in a poor Cas team, go check his try and assists record. Would bring alot to our team definitely. He's playing behind a poor pack and still producing'"
Absolute great point he's playing behind a underperforming pack, although I don't think he's the ultimate answer to moving us to the next level, he'll certainly be better then reynolds
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| Quote ="bonaire"its not the first time this season Gale has let us down with drop goal attempts
He is just not the player we saw at Cas where he had a great short kicking game.and nailed drop goals.
We have seen nothing like this from him'"
It is because he is not the player he was that you were able to sign him. Both our clubs have made the mistake of signing has beens. We seemed to have learned the futility of that approach. At least I hope we have.
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| Just unacceptable inconsistency and really disappointing for the Hull club and for SL - a five way scrap at the top of the table would be great for the comp after three years of only one or two teams being in contention.
It looks like it's all there for Hull on paper, particularly if you can recruit some speed into your playmaking positions. But I would be doing a comprehensive check of the coaching market if I were Adam Pearson. Would Tony Smith be unacceptable to the Hull fans? What about Shaun Wane after the WC?
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| Quote ="dandaman"Absolute great point he's playing behind a underperforming pack, although I don't think he's the ultimate answer to moving us to the next level, he'll certainly be better then reynolds'"
Anyone would be better be better than Reynolds
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| Quote ="MadDogg"Just unacceptable inconsistency and really disappointing for the Hull club and for SL - a five way scrap at the top of the table would be great for the comp after three years of only one or two teams being in contention.
It looks like it's all there for Hull on paper, particularly if you can recruit some speed into your playmaking positions. But I would be doing a comprehensive check of the coaching market if I were Adam Pearson. Would Tony Smith be unacceptable to the Hull fans? What about Shaun Wane after the WC?'"
We've not appointed a head coach with head coach experience since Peter Sharp 2006-2008. Basically a job training scheme since then. Agar, Gentle, Radford, Last, Hodgson. The first four all gone on to great things, obviously,
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| Quote ="Woods1969"Only seen him on sky just going by fans that watch him regularly are saying but as a previous poster has said it does look like most have a bit of a downer on him'"
Definitely sour grapes from the Cas lot
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| Quote ="dandaman"Absolute great point he's playing behind a underperforming pack, although I don't think he's the ultimate answer to moving us to the next level, he'll certainly be better then reynolds'"
Agree, what I like about the signing though is he l improve us as a whole, in support play, good defence and another creative element added to the team, as I think we're abit one dimensional with Connor and not much help from his halfbacks.
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| So after major sulk we move on, Cats. Shaul to FB. Tuime in for Scott.Vuni would be in 17. Still not sure about Lane. yes he runs good lines etc but if not put through a gap gets easily put down. Hopefully Sao back, be tempted to start Griffin SR with Mau. Lovaduo to 6. Onwards and Upwards
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| Brett seems a nice bloke - that’ll be his downfall. He’s a mate not the Boss.
He’s out of his depth and we will never ever make a GF with BH as the head coach.
We will drift to 5th or 6th and lose the first play off match.
Next season - same again bollox - dream one week and thud crud the next.
I certainly blame BH and he should move on but I increasingly blame AP for accepting this mediocrity for years and years
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| Quote ="hull2524"So after major sulk we move on, Cats. Shaul to FB. Tuime in for Scott.Vuni would be in 17. Still not sure about Lane. yes he runs good lines etc but if not put through a gap gets easily put down. Hopefully Sao back, be tempted to start Griffin SR with Mau. Lovaduo to 6. Onwards and Upwards'"
I agree with you about Lane.Needs to show a lot more aggression. He is also a penalty machine and was taken out the side several weeks ago because of his constant giving away six agains.Has been better lately but still gives away too many penalties.
That said i wouldnt start Griffin he is off the bench at best.
Losing Mau today was a blow and if he is leaving we have a big hole to fill in the second row.
Griffin and Lane are not in his League
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