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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Before holbrook came over, pretty much[u the same saints team was utter gash under cunningham.[/u He's a top coach who would improve any team in the comp'"
To be fair, anyone could have improved on Cunningham.
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| Quote ="Mild mannered Janitor"NURSE.....help needed for Wizeb....looks like the meds have worn off.'"
Bit of positive thinking old bean.
I'll give up when it's no longer possible.
I'll take my pardon from the whineathon if we come up short.
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| I think I would have improved Saints if I'd have took over from Saints, they had some good players, he was useless.
Saying that Holbrook is obviously a decent coach, but if they don't win at least one trophy this season is say he time will have been slightly disapointting after being so dominant for the last two seasons.
I'd be amazed if they don't win on Saturday, think only Wigan can stop them for the double.
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| Quote ="WIZEB"Bit of positive thinking old bean.
I'll give up when it's no longer possible.
I'll take my pardon from the whineathon if we come up short.'"
Fair play,
Most on here want Hull to succeed and I am a glass half full type, that said at would be a monumental turnaround for us to end up as champions
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| Interesting that the gereral concensus is that the coach is the difference. Puzzling that so many Hull fans are content with Radford as ours.
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| Quote ="Mild mannered Janitor"Fair play,
Most on here want Hull to succeed and I am a glass half full type, that said at would be a monumental turnaround for us to end up as champions'"
We've got no f00king chance but we live in hope.
It's never over until the gargantuan female sings.
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| Quote ="Darkside Dave"Interesting that the gereral concensus is that the coach is the difference. Puzzling that so many Hull fans are content with Radford as ours.'"
It’s a good point. From memory he hasn’t had any mass clear outs so is working with a similar group of players, but has made them into a totally different animal.
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| these threads really get tedious after a defeat.we played crap.end of.
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| Quote ="Irregular Hoops"It’s a good point. From memory he hasn’t had any mass clear outs so is working with a similar group of players, but has made them into a totally different animal.'"
It's what we're missing. I doubt there'll be any more trophies ubder the current regime.
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| Quote ="Darkside Dave"Interesting that the gereral concensus is that the coach is the difference. Puzzling that so many Hull fans are content with Radford as ours.'"
I think Radford has been badly let down recently with player attitude. The number of unforced errors on Saturday was unreal. No coach can prepare the amount of knock on's we did.
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| Quote ="Mild mannered Janitor"I think Radford has been badly let down recently with player attitude. The number of unforced errors on Saturday was unreal. No coach can prepare the amount of knock on's we did.'"
That may be but player performance is his job just like any other manager. The buck stops with the coach. We've seen what difference a good coach makes. Radford will always be one of the 'Immortals' in my eyes but I don't want that tarnished because he stays too long without delivering more sucess.
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| Quote ="fosdyke99"these threads really get tedious after a defeat.we played crap.end of.'"
We also played crap in the second half at Wakefield but luckily we won
Crap second half at Wakefield,crap second half against Salford the following week has to tell the coach something
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| Quote ="bonaire"We also played crap in the second half at Wakefield but luckily we won
Crap second half at Wakefield,crap second half against Salford the following week has to tell the coach something'"
Go on, I'll nibble. What does it tell the coach?
Against Wakey we scored first in the second half to put us 20 points up. The stats show we actually held on to the ball better in the second half. That our attack went flat was partly due to game management and seeing the game out which we were never in danger of losing. The quality of the game on the whole was below par, but you choose to say we were crap??
Against Salford, it was level at half time and we conceded two early tries after the break. We then tried, very unsuccessfully to play catch up. Admittedly we were crap in that game, for all the gam except about 15 mins in the first half.
I fail to see the connection you are wanting to make.
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| We need a fresh approach.Our current squad don’t seem to responding to Radford.
But , all just conjecture. As Pearson has said, Radford will always be in charge while he owns the Club !
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| Quote ="fosdyke99"these threads really get tedious after a defeat.we played crap.end of.'"
We have a winner, my thoughts exactly.
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| Agree. Theres opinions then there's constant whining
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| Quote ="hull2524"Agree. Theres opinions then there's constant whining'"
There'll always be folk who are only happy when they're miserable. Sounds odd, but its true.
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| Quote ="hull2524"Agree. Theres opinions then there's constant whining'"
Aaaahhh but for some there’s opinions, then there’s constantly repeating them, trying to convince themselves and everyone else they’re right.
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| Quote ="Armavinit"Aaaahhh but for some there’s opinions, then there’s constantly repeating them, trying to convince themselves and everyone else they’re right.'"
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, and again, and again, and again ……….
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| Quote ="Mild mannered Janitor"NURSE.....help needed for Wizeb....looks like the meds have worn off.'"
I'd probably stop getting things right all the time if they upped my dosage.
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| Quote ="Irregular Hoops"Which team would have more chance of winning a grand final:
St Helens coached by Lee Radford
Hull FC coached by Justin Holbrook
Not being antagonistic, just wondered if it’s squad strength or coaching systems that are most important to developing a champion side.'"
Had the question been about the Challenge Cup it would have been comprehensively answered today. 2-0. And without marquee players.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Had the question been about the Challenge Cup it would have been comprehensively answered today. 2-0. And without marquee players.'"
But it wasn’t
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| Quote ="MorningGlory23"But it wasn’t'"
Still, a maximum of 1 major trophy with every recruitment and resource advantage at his disposal. He's very good but is he great?
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| St Helens would probably be celebrating tonight if Radford was their coach. That's a coach who can bring home the bacon.
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| The concern now then is that radford will likely be tempted over to be a head coach in the NRL
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