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Maybe he'll post from the terraces at Wakefield.
Can't argue with any of the awards well done to all.'"
No still here.
Still a cuddle crew sheep I see following Barista pathetic
Its a rugby league forum and if you don't like criticism of the club/team when its deserved then get back to knitting.
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| Quote ="bonaire"No still here.
Still a cuddle crew sheep I see following Barista pathetic
Its a rugby league forum and if you don't like criticism of the club/team when its deserved then get back to knitting.'"
Can do criticism of club and I have done but not every post you do
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| Quote ="bonaire"No still here.
Still a cuddle crew sheep I see following Barista pathetic
Its a rugby league forum and if you don't like criticism of the club/team when its deserved then get back to knitting.'"
do you even know the origin of the "cuddle crew" term, and who it's various supposed members have been over the years?
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"We can't talk about player salaries according to Bonaire. He seems to be MIA. 18 posts slating various aspects of the club in the last week, then radio silence since 4.30pm on Friday.
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still here Barista
Had it not been for a bit of luck leading to an exciting 20 mins against Leeds I would have been on here like many others criticising the team for a woeful performance.
I think after a full season we would have at least a structure on the field but there was nothing.
We are resigned now to having Radford as coach for next season.If he produces a winning team that plays attractive RL I will be the first to congratulate him.
lets see what happens.
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| Quote ="Standee"do you even know the origin of the "cuddle crew" term, and who it's various supposed members have been over the years?'"
no sorry
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| Quote ="bonaire"no sorry'"
so it's really not appropriate you even make reference then, is it?
you show yourself up constantly
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| Quote ="Standee"so it's really not appropriate you even make reference then, is it?
you show yourself up constantly'"
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| Quote ="bonaire"no sorry'"
We'll shut up about it then and you don't even know the rules of cuddle club
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| Quote ="fc baldy"We'll shut up about it then and you don't even know the rules of cuddle club'"
you seem to have forgotten rule ...oops, so did I!
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| Quote ="Standee"you seem to have forgotten rule ...oops, so did I!'"
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| Quote ="Standee"you seem to have forgotten rule ...oops, so did I!'"
It's a bit like that Scottish play that can't be mentioned
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| Quote ="fc baldy"It's a bit like that Scottish play that can't be mentioned'"
what, Sunshine on Leith?
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| Quote ="Standee"what, Sunshine on Leith?
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| Quote ="bonaire"No still here.
Still a cuddle crew sheep I see following Barista pathetic
Its a rugby league forum and if you don't like criticism of the club/team when its deserved then get back to knitting.'"
Troll.
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| Seriously people the rules of cuddle club are very simple so stop breaking them!
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| Quote ="Standee"so it's really not appropriate you even make reference then, is it?
you show yourself up constantly'"
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| Quote ="bonaire"still here Barista.'" I've called you out. And hither you came.
Quote ="bonaire"Had it not been for a bit of luck leading to an exciting 20 mins against Leeds I would have been on here like many others criticising the team for a woeful performance.'"
Why not just reference the 20 minutes in context? Be happy about the atmosphere the crowd generated. Maybe highlight a good third game for Jack Logan. An appropriate send-off for a player with 386 first team appearances. Reference a pretty impressive demonstration of on-field leadership by Gareth Ellis. Comment on a moving tribute to FC fans who've passed. It's possible to be underwhelmed by the big picture but find and appropriately acknowledge the odd positive. You don't need to go AWOL for 48 hours just because we beat the CC holders in a grandstand finish via an academy player. We all want the same thing, right?
Quote ="bonaire"I think after a full season we would have at least a structure on the field but there was nothing.'" Well, not quite nothing. I'll check the highlights. If every try was an interception to back up your comment, I'll fess up. Most of the game was dire, clearly.
Quote ="bonaire"We are resigned now to having Radford as coach for next season.If he produces a winning team that plays attractive RL I will be the first to congratulate him.
lets see what happens.'" Yes, let's. Something tells me this won't be the last time you play out your constructive and diverse thoughts on our management team before February though, so your claim of a "wait and see" approach will be lucky to extend to 8pm tonight based on your previous
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| Quote ="airliebird,runninglate!"I reckon personally between tala feka n =#0000FFthompson between their reputations n saleries this yr we've had the best value for money individuals than any other team!'"
Doubt that's possible, he was signed by Gentle/McRae so he must be on half a million at least.
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"Doubt that's possible, he was signed by Gentle/McRae so he must be on half a million at least.'"
It only gets over half a million in the last year of his 99 year contract. PA knew nothing about it until reading it on here just now.
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"Doubt that's possible, he was signed by Gentle/McRae so he must be on half a million at least.'"
People taking the view that money was wasted by Gentle and McRae on overpaying average players are taking that view based upon the Chairman's own comments. Since it was his money being wasted I'm not surprised he a) got rid of the perpetrators and b) feels it necessary to enlighten the supporters about that situation. He's also admitted to his own mistake in allowing this to happen (when new into the sport) and it sounds as though he wont allow it to happen again.
Clearly it's your prerogative not to believe him but it's difficult to see why anyone would doubt his word.
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"People taking the view that money was wasted by Gentle and McRae on overpaying average players are taking that view based upon the Chairman's own comments. Since it was his money being wasted I'm not surprised he a) got rid of the perpetrators and b) feels it necessary to enlighten the supporters about that situation. He's also admitted to his own mistake in allowing this to happen (when new into the sport) and it sounds as though he wont allow it to happen again.
Clearly it's your prerogative not to believe him but it's difficult to see why anyone would doubt his word.'"
I think Cuckoo's post was tongue in cheek!
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| Quote ="Standee"I think Cuckoo's post was tongue in cheek!'"
I was replying to Carl who takes the view (fair enough it's his view) that there's too many excuses being made on the back of the now departed Gentle and McRae. Not sure what Cuckoo's post has got to do with it.
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"I was replying to Carl who takes the view (fair enough it's his view) that there's too many excuses being made on the back of the now departed Gentle and McRae. Not sure what Cuckoo's post has got to do with it.'"
sorry, I meant carl.
People are happy to blame previous employee's, there has to be [isome[/i responsibility apportioned to current staff and players. Yes, we've scored points, but this is a results business, and had it not been for Bradford's points reduction who knows where we would have ended up, would we have tried harder, would they have tried harder?
We are told we spend full cap, investment has been made in many areas, we finished 11th, one point behind 10th, one point above 12th, 16 points from the top.
That, is not solely Peter Gentle's fault.
The "it wasn't me, it was him" culture never works.
Has Lee apologised for the woeful season? Has he said it was unacceptable?
or are they all getting ready to go out in Beverley on the beer?
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| Quote ="Standee"sorry, I meant carl.
People are happy to blame previous employee's, there has to be [isome[/i responsibility apportioned to current staff and players. Yes, we've scored points, but this is a results business, and had it not been for Bradford's points reduction who knows where we would have ended up, would we have tried harder, would they have tried harder?
We are told we spend full cap, investment has been made in many areas, we finished 11th, one point behind 10th, one point above 12th, 16 points from the top.
That, is not solely Peter Gentle's fault.
The "it wasn't me, it was him" culture never works.
Has Lee apologised for the woeful season? Has he said it was unacceptable?
or are they all getting ready to go out in Beverley on the beer?'"
None of which addresses the point previously being debated about Gentle and McRae's signings which may possibly be a little subtle for you.
I don't know of anyone, including Radford and Pearson, who haven't come out and said this season has been poor. They've both admitted to making mistakes themselves so your idea that they are entirely blaming others (Gentle) is as ludicrous as ever. I don't think Radford has publically apologised nor am I expecting him to. He certainly needs to get a grip of Hull's attacking play next season but hopefully has brought in players with better core skills to help improve this side of things. He obviously has the respect of the players - this can be seen from the effort and overall for/against this season which is always a marker of that - the team has generally worked very hard but with too little skill, brains and structure to convert that effort into league points. His record in bringing through juniors into the team as well as allowing Westerman to flourish in the role to which he is best suited this year is excellent and hopefully will continue. Not the sign of a 'weak bully' as you pathetically (almost sadly) described him a few days back.
So - a poor season but with some green shoots visible in terms of improved home form at the back end of the season together with some young players being given some opportunities. If the attacking and tactical side of play don't improve considerably next year and we're in danger of missing the 8 again in June/July Radford should rightly be replaced. No question of that.
The above constitutes a balanced view of the situation as I see it. It's always best to be balanced in my opinion as if things go the opposite way to the stance you have taken then you end up looking increasingly stupid. For some (such as yourself) it's the coach's fault when we lose but when we win there's never any praise for him - not a bean. In reality it's a combination of things that determine results, the coach's ability being one (important) facet. Take the last game against Leeds as an example - for 50 mins we defended well but were awful in attack. In the last 20 mins we were excellent. Did Radford coach the first 50 mins and someone else take over after that ? Sounds ridiculuous doesn't it ?
Finally the loaded comment about the lads going out for an end of season beer no doubt with departing and retiring colleagues is another unsurprising but no less pathetic waste of bandwidth on your behalf.
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"None of which addresses the point previously being debated about Gentle and McRae's signings which may possibly be a little subtle for you.
I don't know of anyone, including Radford and Pearson, who haven't come out and said this season has been poor. They've both admitted to making mistakes themselves so your idea that they are entirely blaming others (Gentle) is as ludicrous as ever. I don't think Radford has publically apologised nor am I expecting him to. He certainly needs to get a grip of Hull's attacking play next season but hopefully has brought in players with better core skills to help improve this side of things. He obviously has the respect of the players - this can be seen from the effort and overall for/against this season which is always a marker of that - the team has generally worked very hard but with too little skill, brains and structure to convert that effort into league points. His record in bringing through juniors into the team as well as allowing Westerman to flourish in the role to which he is best suited this year is excellent and hopefully will continue. Not the sign of a 'weak bully' as you pathetically (almost sadly) described him a few days back.
So - a poor season but with some green shoots visible in terms of improved home form at the back end of the season together with some young players being given some opportunities. If the attacking and tactical side of play don't improve considerably next year and we're in danger of missing the 8 again in June/July Radford should rightly be replaced. No question of that.
The above constitutes a balanced view of the situation as I see it. It's always best to be balanced in my opinion as if things go the opposite way to the stance you have taken then you end up looking increasingly stupid. For some (such as yourself) it's the coach's fault when we lose but when we win there's never any praise for him - not a bean. In reality it's a combination of things that determine results, the coach's ability being one (important) facet. Take the last game against Leeds as an example - for 50 mins we defended well but were awful in attack. In the last 20 mins we were excellent. Did Radford coach the first 50 mins and someone else take over after that ? Sounds ridiculuous doesn't it ?
Finally the loaded comment about the lads going out for an end of season beer no doubt with departing and retiring colleagues is another unsurprising but no less pathetic waste of bandwidth on your behalf.'"
2015, hope we get a lot better, am not arguing on anything else, because you have a set position, as do I.
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