Don't think their signings are any better than ours, tbh. And our recruitment isn't anywhere near finished, yet.

It has to be a target to get in the top 4. Outside of the top 4 this year its pretty ordinary. Even Huddersfield are only marginally better than clubs in 5th to 8 positions.
Add to that Wigan getting a new coach and a lump of lard from us and they may slip back into the pack. I emphasise MAY.
I would also imagine commercially Pearson will demand a final appearance at Wembley. If he delivered a win there he would become a saint in the eyes of all black and white fans.

Same old, havent you lot been saying this for the past 10 years.

Difference now is we have got rid of Agar and the old board and in there place we now have people who know what they are doing.

And in them ten years we have won a challenge cup and got to wembley and also a grand final so it aint like we havent done anything lol.

Nah, just since '07 when we were 4th last.

You're kidding, right?! We may as well just keep Agar and same squad too.

Graham's departure is a massive blow to Saints' front row though. Whilst the rest of the squad still looks typically strong like they always do, their weakness/lack of depth is in a pretty key area. I can see them starting next season slowly until the weather improves, unless they still have a monster prop signing up their sleeve.

nopem thats been your lot telling blatant lies about a new ground!

Remember gentle can't coach mediocrity out of them overnight it will take a little bit of time

Agree with that. Its gonna be a massive wake up call to some of the squad and should separate the men from the boys!

On the pitch it is at the moment,we're pinning our hopes on Gentle being able to turn it around. Look at Saints this season,no home ground and horrendous injury problems and still sitting pretty. They aren't languishing in 8th spot moaning about injuries to their key half backs blah blah blah as some sort of justification for under performing. They've knuckled down,blooded youth and in the process,unearthed the next generation of stars. I tipped them to drop off big style this year due to an ageing squad having to be replaced and expected them to be in a big transitional period. Instead they've got a good coach who's galvanised the squad,coached them through it with motivation and skill. I'm preying Gentle has the same qualities and attributes.

I believe 34 points is an achievable goal for next season. Hopefully achieved by not losing home games like Wakey and Cas this season and hopefully taking more than 3 points out of a possible 20 off of this seasons top 5.

Top 4 and reach the semi's of the CC I think should be the minimum aim.

There is a large turnover of players, so I would hope to see a few more friendlies to get them bedded in before the season starts.

Wigan and Warrington are out of sight at the moment although Wigan are losing McGuire which could drag them closer to the chasing pack. I hope for top 4 but the main thing is to know we are in with a chance of winning every game if things go right for us. Apart from a freak result at Wire (I wasn't there so don't know how that happened) we were beaten before taking the field against the top teams as we knew we couldn't beat them.

We managed top 8 this season. Given how this season panned out was you happy with that as well?

warringtons best players are coming to the end of their careers, it won't be too long before their cycle of success ends and transition begins.

wigan won't be as strong without madge.

leeds are already in transition.

I can see the curve and it looks to me llike hull will catch the wave of success next.

My prediction is you'll become champions in 2014.

Top 4 is a realistic aim,with the challenge cup a must.I hope the young guns will do themselves justice too,as with Fitz,Lauaki,Washy and Dowes gone,and only O'Carroll the only confirmed fwd(Lynch obv looks likely)it leaves us a fwd or 2 short on this year.

Maybe we will finally look at blooding a couple of props ?

Challenge cup as always depends on the draw, we could get Wire/Wigan away in the first round.

O'Meley
Lynch
Moa
O'Carroll

5th Prop
Kent-Bowden-Aldous

A good mix of experience and rawness/youth

Given Agar has had 4yrs to instill a culture of mediocrity at the club, I'm prepared to give Gentle a little bit of time to coach it out of them.

Like everyone else I want us in the top 4 but I'm not expecting things to change overnight although obviously some are.

You have to beat anyone in front of you,so it's not a big issue on who the opponent is,though a home tie always helps.

It looks good to me, we really need to start bringing the youngsters through I know bomber is keen with youngsters and I hope Gentle is too. The club have invested in these youngsters but for some reasons god only knows Agar has ignored them even when certain players have had a bad run of form..Hopefully Gentle will not be impressed with just a name and it will be performance which gets players in the line-up, players should be playing for their shirts. The likes of Wire are not afraid to drop big name players if they are not performing that is where we need to be.

For me the holes are obvious currently in our squad. We need another prop which should be solved when Lynch signs. We need a class centre which should be solved with a NRL based player.

That just leaves the backrow, it would have to be british but we would need someone.

We would then have cover for every position and with the addition of 2/3 young lads into the squad we would be looking pretty competetive.

With regards to people mentioning the CC, it's hard to say semi final should be a goal, it's largely dependant on the draw. If you draw Wire/Wigan/Saints away then you are up against it.

We should be challenging for the top 4 and making an impression in the playoffs. Along with being more consistent and developing some younger players.