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| Quote ="Tavernred"All one of em!
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Ive heard your looking at record crowd numbers for the forthcoming season. Hudgell says the 600 Willie Mason cut-outs should fill up that mobile stand nicely.
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| I doubt very much that the Stadium could be sold, funding was secured from other sources (including Sport England) on the premise that it was a community facility. It makes no sense for the Council to sell it's only asset, and if it is, genuinely, "costing them money" it's their incompetence and nobody else's.
FWIW I do not want to see it sold, in fact I'd like to see the rules about the SMC tightened up so that it is not part and parcel of any one club, that way not only is justice being done (as I believe it already is) but importantly, it is SEEN to be being done.
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| Quote ="Standee"I doubt very much that the Stadium could be sold, funding was secured from other sources (including Sport England) on the premise that it was a community facility. It makes no sense for the Council to sell it's only asset, and if it is, genuinely, "costing them money" it's their incompetence and nobody else's.
FWIW I do not want to see it sold, in fact I'd like to see the rules about the SMC tightened up so that it is not part and parcel of any one club, that way not only is justice being done (as I believe it already is) but importantly, it is SEEN to be being done.'"
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| Quote ="Standee"I doubt very much that the Stadium could be sold, funding was secured from other sources (including Sport England) on the premise that it was a community facility. It makes no sense for the Council to sell it's only asset, and if it is, genuinely, "costing them money" it's their incompetence and nobody else's.
FWIW I do not want to see it sold, in fact I'd like to see the rules about the SMC tightened up so that it is not part and parcel of any one club, that way not only is justice being done (as I believe it already is) but importantly, it is SEEN to be being done.'"
What he said
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| Quote ="Standee"I doubt very much that the Stadium could be sold, funding was secured from other sources (including Sport England) on the premise that it was a community facility. It makes no sense for the Council to sell it's only asset, and if it is, genuinely, "costing them money" it's their incompetence and nobody else's.
FWIW I do not want to see it sold, in fact I'd like to see the rules about the SMC tightened up so that it is not part and parcel of any one club, that way not only is justice being done (as I believe it already is) but importantly, it is SEEN to be being done.'"
Spot on Standee
We have no need to worry about any proposed sale, I am very certain that when it was all set up there where lots of covenants put in place. As a major leaseholder of the KC our rights as tenants are guaranteed and NO ONE CAN KICK US OUT.
So sit back and laugh at them
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| Quote ="Ian P"Spot on Standee
We have no need to worry about any proposed sale, I am very certain that when it was all set up there where lots of covenants put in place. As a major leaseholder of the KC our rights as tenants are guaranteed and NO ONE CAN KICK US OUT.
So sit back and laugh at them
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This won't happen, but...
Imagine the Allam's intent was to kick you out (you can rest easy, as I'm sure it isn't). You have a watertight tenancy agreement - but if it was mutually agreeable to the SMC and Hull FC board I'm sure it could be dissolved. Of course the Hull FC board would be mad to do that - unless it was made up of people whose intent was to see Hull FC leave the KC. How much would it cost to buy Hull FC? £2m? 3?
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"How much would it cost to buy Hull FC? £2m? 3?'"
I understand that sums not unadjacent to those have already been rejected.
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"This won't happen, but...
Imagine the Allam's intent was to kick you out (you can rest easy, as I'm sure it isn't). You have a watertight tenancy agreement - but if it was mutually agreeable to the SMC and Hull FC board I'm sure it could be dissolved. Of course the Hull FC board would be mad to do that - unless it was made up of people whose intent was to see Hull FC leave the KC. How much would it cost to buy Hull FC? £2m? 3?
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The current valuation of Hull FC (in the eyes of the sharedholders) appears to be nearer the £5m mark, I know bids of £3.5m have been turned away in recent times.
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| I agree there's no way that Hull FC can be kicked out of the KC. However I think some people are being a bit naïve that the stadium won’t be sold. From what I hear, on extremely good authority, is that one of the major reasons the Allams bought out Hull City was on the premise that they would be able to buy the stadium.
I don’t think they would have committed all the money they already have without thoroughly investigating the chances of this happening with the council and powers that be etc.
They will buy the stadium and then look at expanding as soon as possible. Hull FC will still have a home, but it will look sp when just over a quarter filled on most weekends.
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| Quote ="Eric The Viking"I agree there's no way that Hull FC can be kicked out of the KC. However I think some people are being a bit naïve that the stadium won’t be sold. From what I hear, on extremely good authority, is that one of the major reasons the Allams bought out Hull City was on the premise that they would be able to buy the stadium.
=#0080FFI don’t think they would have committed all the money they already have without thoroughly investigating the chances of this happening with the council and powers that be etc.
They will buy the stadium and then look at expanding as soon as possible. Hull FC will still have a home, but it will look sp when just over a quarter filled on most weekends.'"
Really?
People with money do that sort of thing all the time. Plus they may not have been told the truth - either deliberately or through ignorance.
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| Quote ="Kosh"Really?
People with money do that sort of thing all the time. Plus they may not have been told the truth - either deliberately or through ignorance.'"
Maybe you're right, maybe you're wrong? Either way I think it's very naive for somebody to say outright "there's no way the stadium will be sold".
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| Quote ="Kosh"Really?
People with money do that sort of thing all the time. Plus they may not have been told the truth - either deliberately or through ignorance.'"
Nobody in the Council could give assurances about buying any asset, be it the KC, a Museum, Gallery or major piece of art owned by HCC. The comittee stages involved in disposing of any asset (and especially a major one such as the KC) would be time consuming in the extreme, then people would have to be given a 28 day consultation period and be allowed to make representations to cabinet, it may even get "called in" by Whitehall as it is such a high profile issue (on a local level).
If it were THAT easy for Council's to dispose of assets then there would be authorities up and down the country disposing of all manner of assets in an attempt to plug the various funding gaps.
I don't think we should take "some bloke down my local" as a "reliable and knowledgeable source" (or whatever Eric referred to them as.
Anyone ever sold a house?, you know how long that takes, and there are no complex political or legal issues associated with it, selling an asset of the crown (which is, in effect, what the KC is) would be ten fold more complex (IMHO)
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| Quote ="Standee"Nobody in the Council could give assurances about buying any asset, be it the KC, a Museum, Gallery or major piece of art owned by HCC. The comittee stages involved in disposing of any asset (and especially a major one such as the KC) would be time consuming in the extreme, then people would have to be given a 28 day consultation period and be allowed to make representations to cabinet, it may even get "called in" by Whitehall as it is such a high profile issue (on a local level).
If it were THAT easy for Council's to dispose of assets then there would be authorities up and down the country disposing of all manner of assets in an attempt to plug the various funding gaps.
I don't think we should take "some bloke down my local" as a "reliable and knowledgeable source" (or whatever Eric referred to them as.
Anyone ever sold a house?, you know how long that takes, and there are no complex political or legal issues associated with it, selling an asset of the crown (which is, in effect, what the KC is) would be ten fold more complex (IMHO)'"
I'm not disputing any of the above and you certainly seem to know what you're talking about. However, time will tell and the stadium will be sold and developed, be it now, 2 or 5 years time.
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| Quote ="Eric The Viking"Maybe you're right, maybe you're wrong? Either way I think it's very naive for somebody to say outright "there's no way the stadium will be sold".'"
Good job nobody's said that, then.
And I would have said that it's far more naive to believe scuttlebut from a 'reliable source' without actually checking whether the facts contradict that information. As Standee said, the Allams cannot possibly have been told that they can buy the stadium - at best they will have been told that it would not be rejected out of hand.
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| Quote ="Eric The Viking"I'm not disputing any of the above and you certainly seem to know what you're talking about. However, time will tell and the stadium will be sold and developed, be it now, 2 or 5 years time.'"
Is this based on your source again?
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| Quote ="Eric The Viking"I'm not disputing any of the above and you certainly seem to know what you're talking about. However, time will tell and the stadium will be sold and developed, be it now, 2 or 5 years time.'"
allam is worth approx £185 mill
He's into City for £30 mill
Would he really be ready to blow another £40mill on the KC buying and maybe even more expanding? Would he ever get that money back?
For it to be worth anyone while the football club should buy the ground, not the owner of the SMC and football club.
I have said many a time we should have done a uddersfield, where both clubs own a %age of the ground with the council the rest.
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| Any-thing could happen with that scummy Minns in charge...he is mad!
Besides the council are skint and have to raise the money to lend the dobbins some how
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| Quote ="berrigans bitch"Any-thing could happen with that scummy Minns in charge...he is mad!
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nah Willie is bringing a bag of cash with him, along with his builders tools
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| Quote ="Kosh"Good job nobody's said that, then.
And I would have said that it's far more naive to believe scuttlebut from a 'reliable source' without actually checking whether the facts contradict that information. As Standee said, the Allams cannot possibly have been told that they can buy the stadium - at best they will have been told that it would not be rejected out of hand.'"
You keep living in your ideal little "Hull FC oriented world". There's no point in arguing, time will be the telling factor.
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| Quote ="kingston droolers"nah Willie is bringing a bag of cash with him, along with his builders tools'"
Will he have time? I thought he was going to save the world and all that
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| Quote ="berrigans bitch"Will he have time? I thought he was going to save the world and all that
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There are cut outs for that
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| Quote ="Eric The Viking"You keep living in your ideal little "Hull FC oriented world". There's no point in arguing, time will be the telling factor.'"
I don't live in any kind of ideal world, and anything is possible given enough time. I do, however, appreciate that selling the KC would be a lot more difficult than you seem to think, and that the Allams are unlikely to have been told what you think they have.
Plus you'll forgive me if I'm slightly suspicious about the motives of a Rovers fan who spends more time on the FC board than any other.
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| Quote ="Kosh"I don't live in any kind of ideal world, and anything is possible given enough time. I do, however, appreciate that selling the KC would be a lot more difficult than you seem to think, and that the Allams are unlikely to have been told what you think they have.
Plus you'll forgive me if I'm slightly suspicious about the motives of a Rovers fan who spends more time on the FC board than any other.
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Granted
I do however spend most of my time scanning the Rovers board, for information more than anything. I very rarely post on a topic unless I know something and I actually know a lot more people connected with Hull FC than I do Hull KR, hence the extra posts.
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| Not sure if it's been discussed but what is the likely hood of the Allams trying to buy FC? If they are looking to buy the KC then buying FC would seem the next logical step to tie up the loose ends.
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| He may have millions. I doubt he has even a million he can lay his hands on quickly. Would anyone with £180 million spend around half of it buying a football club and ground, plus he has promised millions or team strengthening.
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