We've lost to the lead leaders and a tricky away game. I'd still fancy us to win more games than wakey out of the remaining 9. It's debatable if you even need to be consistent to win the GF, it's a case of getting into the four then winning two games.

Taylor isn't as stand out it seems as last year but last week and this our most effective forward....by loads
9.31metres a carry average last night. 30odd tackles and 3 tackle busts. Bowden nearest in a stats sense and still less tackles metres metres a carry.
Think people are looking into individuals more than they need to. Sneyd wasn't great..but in those conditions on the back of an underperforming pack no half is gonna stand out. Although he does need to be doing a bit more in areas of his game. Connor n Kelly was going well and sneyds not justified his selection since being back. But I still appreciate what sneyd can do
The main 1 for being picked out is Griffin. Barring a bad kick he went well. Same as last week. But seems a lot are busting at the seams willing failiure on him. Its a bit f###### odd imo

I guess at this point of the season our primary goals would have been to secure Top 8 (done) and be in the cup SF (done, despite toughest draw). Difference this year vs last is that we'd have seen out results against Leigh, Catalans and Saints. At our best I'd say we're as good as last year, but lacked that killer instinct in close games. That said plenty of mithering on here about playing our best players every week to achieve that very level consistency but ultimately burning out on the back of parallel Challenge Cup success. The gamble appears to be trying to squeeze into the 4 and fancying ourselves to raise our game late, the risk being we don't put ourselves in that position to start with, although pretty sure those losses just mentioned weren't part of the plan. When we're on it, we're good IMO, scored some excellent tries this year. Need to find something against Leeds which is a disastrous hunting ground for us, big ask.

Completely agree. Taylor made more metres (from the bench) vs Cas than any other player on the pitch including Hardaker I think. We've lost Kelly but compared to last year Connor and Sneyd is an upgrade on Pryce/Carlos and Sneyd and allows Carlos to play at centre which is his best position. I quite like Griffin, brings something different to the party in terms of physicality. Scapegoating individuals after last night's shambolic handling (in poor conditions) is bonkers, but unsurprising.

We simply made too many errors last night to be in with a realistic chance of winning. For the first 20-25 minutes of that 2nd half we seemed to either be defending our line or carting the ball out of our 10 metre area and making errors early in the tackle count.

Individually, I thought manu was a rock in midfield but played too many minutes, fonua is a beast and if we don't replace him with a similar style of player we'll be much the worse for it next year. Taylor put in a massive shift IMO and was head and shoulders our best forward. For those bagging griffin, he made 6 clean breaks last night and we didn't capitalise on any of them - support play still one of our major failings.

The only positive for me last night was our goal line defence which was good again but nothing else really to take from the game

I'm talking more than just this have, we seem to win a couple then lose a couple, if we beat Leeds in the semi I think we will struggle to make the top 4.

The most sensible post ive read since i started reading from about page 8, bit of an over reaction me thinks, if I didnt know the result id of thought wed been mullered reading some of the posts, we defended outstanding last night, because we had to, to many drop ball, mistakes in our own 20, was always going to nullify our attack, no way imo was that defeat down to snyed

Last night isn't really the issue. 2 dry bummings at home against leeds and salford, losses to les cats x 2, losing at home to leigh, throwing away a point at wire. We've been really up and down all season. Win those games against leigh and the french and we're pretty much a shoe in for top 4 after round 30 IMO. Hopefully we're really targeting the end of season games and it's more of a mental issue - we certainly are good enough when we play well. Major issue for me is that with a CC semi coming up and, potentially wembley, I just think we needed a buffer in league pointts so we can lose some games and still be in the top 4.

One thing they should ensure is that the 4 CC semi finalists play each other in the 1st round of the super 8's and again the week before and after wembley but I doubt they're that forward thinking. Then at least it's a moderately even playing field

Cas will probably have at least a 3 game buffer to rest players before the GF semi's, so whoever plays them in those games could well be at an advantage.

You don't have to be consistent to win the Grand Final. Leeds won it from 5th. We could effectively go...WLWLWLWLLWWand still be crowned Champions.

mystic peg

It was very different. It was raining

Could even be 4 or 5 at this rate. Going to be very interesting how Powell then approaches those final league games. Give players some rest especially those carrying knocks but at the same time you don't want to over-do it as you'd want to carry momentum into the playoffs.

Thought you lot defended fairly well for long periods, Hull players look a lot more beefed up than last season which effected mobility trying to work the ball out from your 20 metres.

We're really missing Ellis on the pitch, needed him to settle us so we could complete a set at times.

Radford has always said if you play well you keep your place.Well not it seems in this instance
I like Sneyd but for me he shouldnt have come straight back into the team.
Its the same with Griffin kept his place in the team after a very average game at Cas at the expense of Connor who dropped to the bench yet Griffin for me is an ideal off the bench impact player in the second row.
It was little wonder Connor looked peed all the game and you cant blame him.Radford would probably have dropped Connor for next week after that display but the injury to Kelly means he will keep his place.
Connor will not have the same impetus at half back with Sneyd as he did with Kelly.
We should get back to Taylor and Watts starting props.Dont know why Radford changed to Watts off the bench and Taylor starting.
Radford got the bench and interchanges wrong for this match.Should have pulled Mini off for 15 minutes and put some glue on his hands and pulled Sneyd off at half time and reverted to Kelly/Connor at halfback.
To be honest cant see us winning any of our next three games.Even Huddersfield look lively now.

Don't get this sneyd griffin bashing. Your right about Connor he did look peeved of and that to me is no good that's not what I'd be looking for if I was a coach. I like Connor and think and hope he will play a big part for us in years to come. As a whole last night we was off the game apart from defending. We've just lost to the table toppers and saints away not exactly easy games but I did expect to win one. Hopefully we can get a result against Leeds. One match away from Wembley and 4 th

No one is bashing Sneyd merely criticizing his performance. Hardly constitutes bashing does it?
We are discussing the Saints performance and inparticular our attacking prowess or lack of, of which Sneyd is an integral part.
There is a difference.

Sad, sad troll post that can't even accurately repeat the exact words I used and indeed failed to even be correctly critical. it wasn't my misunderstanding English language was it? c'mon, you were in fact trying to be clever by attacking me because you didn't agree with my sentence structure, isn't that actually what you were doing. Basically a troll post that added absolutely zilch to the discussion whatsoever and was wrong in any case.
Go away troll, you can't even accurately grasp what you're being critical off ffs!

Criticized or bashing different words but same meaning in the context of the for mentioned article of which its kind of pandamtic to bring up.

Radford pulling players off, is not the answer

Well, that made me laugh even more than your original post!

I cannot even be bothered to correct the English in this post, (even the spell checker on this site has highlighted about 75% of it in red).

You carry on making fun of other people's English though, whatever makes you happy.

Reminds me of an old joke. New player at a club was told he would be pulled off at half time. His comment was " Thats fine, we just got half an orange at my last club"

I didn't criticise their English you fool, I criticised their comprehension skills of what i'd actually written which was none of your business in any case.
See, you're even worse, you can't even comprehend what's going on, can't even understand what I was criticising and couldn't even repeat the correct words I'd used but come onto a thread just to cause trouble.
You got owned a page or so back

=#FF0000Removed the specific abuse - can we not abuse each other please - that applies to EVERYONE

Chris

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