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| Just got home after a cracking night out there too!!!!
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Bowden had a cracking game and looked the Prop in waiting , Mcdon had a good first game and looked very dangerous in support , every time we were ball in hand he was there in support, Holdsworth looked a solid as expected half and with a good boot too, something we have missed for some time.
Seymour was purring IMO and looked to be organising very well and so comfortable on the ball, some people will be eating humble pie over him i think
The one who stood out most to me was Green, i think this kid is the real deal and will be a HOWWGE player in years to come, he has everything to make it big and no slouch either but his agression is second to non , well played all and we will be better for it too
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| I would like to see Holdsworth and Seymour in the halves next week. Holdsworth did seem quiet today but will need games. The right hand side looked stronger. This might benefit us if we can be more balanced in attack. Green looked impressive, with Watts being injured he is fighting for a bench spot.
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| Quote ="steve_norton"I'm not a Seymour hater but comparing him to Heremia today, Azza ran at the defence and through gaps,Seymour didn't. Seymour put a good kick in for the try but Azza put one in too to get a repeat set, something we don't get enough of. I'm not sure Azza is the answer at half either but he showed me more than Seymour based on todays performance.
I was pretty sure Houghton put Westie in.'"
The thing is though, you have to be fair to the players and consider the differing situations. Heremaia ran with the ball well with his team on the front foot and gaps to go at. Seymour didn't have so much opportunity IMO, but still did well at times and I actually thought he kicked ok. I just thought that the main difference between them today was the players around them and the advantages that brought (ie Heremaia enjoyed more possession and more space to run into). One played in a potential top 4 SL side, the other amongst academy players and trialists. I didn't think there was much between them considering.
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| Also, that Carney's a big lad for a 3/4 isn't he?
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"The thing is though, you have to be fair to the players and consider the differing situations. Heremaia ran with the ball well with his team on the front foot and gaps to go at. Seymour didn't have so much opportunity IMO, but still did well at times and I actually thought he kicked ok. I just thought that the main difference between them today was the players around them and the advantages that brought (ie Heremaia enjoyed more possession and more space to run into). One played in a potential top 4 SL side, the other amongst academy players and trialists. I didn't think there was much between them considering.'"
Precisely.
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"Also, that Carney's a big lad for a 3/4 isn't he?'"
Got loads of errors in him though, and gets out jumped constantly (As we saw today). He is strong taking the ball up though, when he can keep hold of it.
Talking about size, Lineham is Massive! He's bigger than a couple of our props. Even Crooks has filled out a bit.
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| Quote ="the artist"regarding whiting - it everyone is fit he won't be in the 17 (not my opinion but what i think the coaches is), however with any injuries to the forwards (and even the backs in the event of a crisis) he will be in to provide cover - despite trying to lose his utility value over the years, its his ability to play almost anywhere that keeps him a valuable member of the squad'"
I'm not sure. I don't think there's much at all to read into Whiting playing in the first half and not the second, same with Pitts. The fact is, only 13 players played in that second half and matchday squads have 17. Gentle decided not to rotate the seeming 'first choice' today, but that won't be the case when we get going properly.
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| Great to have so many tough selection headaches.
Gentle's comments about Whting during the off season in the trade press suggests he is in the first choice XVII.
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| I thought it was an intuative way to approach a friendly putting the kids out first.
Mainly done the other way and take the first choice off in the second half and the game descends, but today was a good game all round.
When you look at the 'first 13' that played second half, then chuck in the players missing and from the first half, im more than happy we have good quality to back up even if a few injuries hit
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"FC 26 Cas 6
McDonnell is on the end of a lovely move from FC as quick hands spread the ball to Briscoe. He runs down the wing, draws the full back and plays it inside to the supporting McDonnell. Holdsworth adds the extras. FC 26-6 Cas.'"
Staffs.... with all your commentary this afternoon, I was just waiting for you to mention about anyone coming in from washing the car or doing the garden. It was as if Triple D was live on the forum.
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"Also, that Carney's a big lad for a 3/4 isn't he?'"
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"The thing is though, you have to be fair to the players and consider the differing situations. Heremaia ran with the ball well with his team on the front foot and gaps to go at. Seymour didn't have so much opportunity IMO, but still did well at times and I actually thought he kicked ok. I just thought that the main difference between them today was the players around them and the advantages that brought (ie Heremaia enjoyed more possession and more space to run into). One played in a potential top 4 SL side, the other amongst academy players and trialists. I didn't think there was much between them considering.'"
True, but we never really saw Seymour run at the defence or make any breaks last season.
Hope I am wrong and he gets a chance to show us next week how we will go with Holdsworth, seems opinion was split on him today. At least its good to have options.
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| Quote ="number 6"been sharing the pies with webster haha'"
and taking a few off Jamie Ellis, he's slimmed down a bit, doesn't look like a prop anymore
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"Great to have so many tough selection headaches.
Gentle's comments about Whting during the off season in the trade press suggests he is in the first choice XVII.'"
And comments at the fans forum about him. Bench spot or starting at 13 I would say.
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| Quote ="steve_norton"True, but we never really saw Seymour run at the defence or make any breaks last season.'"
I don't personally think that's entirely true. Certainly in the first half of the season at least he not only ran at the defence but went through it and got himself some tries.
Quote ="steve_norton"Hope I am wrong and he gets a chance to show us next week how we will go with Holdsworth, seems opinion was split on him today. At least its good to have options.'"
I hope so, too. I'm not saying he's one of the best halves in SL, I just don't think he is as bad as is made out most of the time and could be much better given the chance this year. I thought he was pretty good last year until a combination of factors sent his form nosediving, notably McKinnon leaving, a knee problem, then his chairman having a pretty open pop at him.
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"I don't personally think that's entirely true. Certainly in the first half of the season at least he not only ran at the defence but went through it and got himself some tries.
I hope so, too. I'm not saying he's one of the best halves in SL, I just don't think he is as bad as is made out most of the time and could be much better given the chance this year. I thought he was pretty good last year until a combination of factors sent his form nosediving, notably McKinnon leaving, a knee problem, then his chairman having a pretty open pop at him.'"
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"The thing is though, you have to be fair to the players and consider the differing situations. Heremaia ran with the ball well with his team on the front foot and gaps to go at. Seymour didn't have so much opportunity IMO, but still did well at times and I actually thought he kicked ok. I just thought that the main difference between them today was the players around them and the advantages that brought (ie Heremaia enjoyed more possession and more space to run into). One played in a potential top 4 SL side, the other amongst academy players and trialists. I didn't think there was much between them considering.'"
Have to say I thought I'd watched a different game when read some posts saying Seymour was poor. I honestly thought he played quite well in a first half side that was pretty inexperienced and up against a fairly strong Cas line up. I would like to see Seymour partner Holdsworth against Rovers in a strong line up before condemning him.
I thought his passing was pretty good too along with his kicking.
I was impressed with Green as he looked very strong and all the better for the experience of last season. I thought the 2nd half started well after a good platform laid by the younger first team players. It also looked as though they took their foot off the gas after 25 mins.
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| Anyone know if the highlights are going to be on FC.TV?
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| Any one got a breakdown of the subs who came on in the first half?
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| Nicklas for Cunningham
Wilson for Green
Starling for Hadley
Can't remember the rest to be honest. I know Yeaman started and then came off after 5. Don't know who for though.
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| Quote ="Chris71"Have to say I thought I'd watched a different game when read some posts saying Seymour was poor. I honestly thought he played quite well in a first half side that was pretty inexperienced and up against a fairly strong Cas line up. I would like to see Seymour partner Holdsworth against Rovers in a strong line up before condemning him.
I thought his passing was pretty good too along with his kicking.
I was impressed with Green as he looked very strong and all the better for the experience of last season. I thought the 2nd half started well after a good platform laid by the younger first team players. It also looked as though they took their foot off the gas after 25 mins.'"
Thought green looked well too. Old fashioned prop in a way that has strength and size but seems a bit immobile and lacks skill. Defence is great though!!
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| Quote ="Smiggs"Any one got a breakdown of the subs who came on in the first half?'"
36 Hull FC: Chris Green for Ryan Wilson
33 Hull FC: James Cunningham for Richard Horne
33 Hull FC: Josh Bowden for Richard Whiting
27 Hull FC: Alex Starling for Chris Green
27 Hull FC: Ryan Wilson for Josh Bowden
Half time changes:
40 Hull FC: Aaron Heremaia for Brett Seymour
40 Hull FC: Andy Lynch for Josh Bowden
40 Hull FC: Ben Galea for Dean Hadley
40 Hull FC: Daniel Holdsworth for Richard Horne
40 Hull FC: Danny Houghton for James Cunningham
40 Hull FC: Gareth Ellis for Alex Starling
40 Hull FC: Jason Crookes for Tom Lineham
40 Hull FC: Joe Arundel for Ben Crooks
40 Hull FC: Joe Westerman for Jay Pitts
40 Hull FC: Mark O'Meley for Chris Green
40 Hull FC: Shannon McDonnell for Jamie Shaul
40 Hull FC: Tom Briscoe for Jack Briscoe
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| Quote ="jehull"Nicklas for Cunningham
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