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| Quote ="Standee"the world is full of companies that deliver what their customers want
you celebrate mediocrity, crack on, it's your money.'"
Two trophies up for grabs each year. So 12 or 13 "companies" that don't deliver, surely?
I'm not celebrating, the season's been poor. I want FC to succeed. Adam Pearson doesn't have bottomless pockets. I want to contribute to our chances of success. In my opinion the best way I can do that is financially through buying 4 passes. To spend hours slating the coach and banging on about not buying a pass achieves what? What evidence do you have that this "statement" is delivering the change you want?
Your support of the club is conditional, I get that. Mine is less so.
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| Quote ="Standee"how is having an opinion "causing grief"?
as I say, pay your money if you wish, but don't be blind as to say we're anything other than a poor team. A poor team that pay TOP DOLLAR for some rubbish players.
We all hope 2015 will be better I am sure.'"
You bandy about words like "celebrating mediocrity" when clearly no-one is doing anything of the sort.
I've never suggested that we're anything other than a poor team.
It would appear that we have made some shocking decisions with regards contracts in the recent past. Hopefully things are changing.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Two trophies up for grabs each year. So 12 or 13 "companies" that don't deliver, surely?
I'm not celebrating, the season's been poor. I want FC to succeed. Adam Pearson doesn't have bottomless pockets. I want to contribute to our chances of success. In my opinion the best way I can do that is financially through buying 4 passes. To spend hours slating the coach and banging on about not buying a pass achieves what? What evidence do you have that this "statement" is delivering the change you want?
Your support of the club is conditional, I get that. Mine is less so.'"
change doesn't happen by accident, it needs to be encouraged, I guess there is a middle ground somewhere
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| Quote ="Legends and Icons"FC till I die ..... Iakow ...... COYH'"
you missed the new one for next year #FaithInTheFuture
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| The decision to buy a season pass or not is a personal one and nobody has the right to criticise somebody for making a personal choice. I'm fortunate enough to have the disposable income to buy a pass and the personal circumstances to allow me the time to attend games. However, watching the Rugby is one of many leisure activities for me and in recent years the appeal has diminished to the point that the main reason I go is for the social element of me and the wife meeting up with the father-in-law and a few friends. The number of away games we attend has already dropped off but I suspect we will always continue to renew our passes. It's all very well saying true fans (whatever that means) will always buy a pass but for a lot of people the rugby is not an obsession but a leisure activity and they will drift away if the product is poor. I'm sure AP is well aware we have a hardcore of support and to a certain extent he can just forget about those (whilst fully appreciating them) and concentrate on the floating support. That floating support see the rugby as a leisure activity and not a passion so telling them are not a true supporter if they dont renew is meaningless. Get the product right on the pitch and they will allocate some of that precious leisure time to the rugby. Get it wrong and they will look for other things to do. It's already happening.
Having said all that I'll be renewing this week.
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| Well my form is sent away for my new season ticket. Already looking forward to the new season, 150 years to make it that little bit more special. Also, my eldest lad(8 years old) came to a few games with me this season, only seen his side win once in 3 times of going and he wants a season ticket for next season...so Offy and Mini Offy will be there singing in the east stand again.
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| Quote ="Robbo4"The decision to buy a season pass or not is a personal one and nobody has the right to criticise somebody for making a personal choice. I'm fortunate enough to have the disposable income to buy a pass and the personal circumstances to allow me the time to attend games. However, watching the Rugby is one of many leisure activities for me and in recent years the appeal has diminished to the point that the main reason I go is for the social element of me and the wife meeting up with the father-in-law and a few friends. The number of away games we attend has already dropped off but I suspect we will always continue to renew our passes. It's all very well saying true fans (whatever that means) will always buy a pass but for a lot of people the rugby is not an obsession but a leisure activity and they will drift away if the product is poor. I'm sure AP is well aware we have a hardcore of support and to a certain extent he can just forget about those (whilst fully appreciating them) and concentrate on the floating support. That floating support see the rugby as a leisure activity and not a passion so telling them are not a true supporter if they dont renew is meaningless. Get the product right on the pitch and they will allocate some of that precious leisure time to the rugby. Get it wrong and they will look for other things to do. It's already happening.
Having said all that I'll be renewing this week.'"
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| Quote ="Robbo4"The decision to buy a season pass or not is a personal one and nobody has the right to criticise somebody for making a personal choice. I'm fortunate enough to have the disposable income to buy a pass and the personal circumstances to allow me the time to attend games. However, watching the Rugby is one of many leisure activities for me and in recent years the appeal has diminished to the point that the main reason I go is for the social element of me and the wife meeting up with the father-in-law and a few friends. The number of away games we attend has already dropped off but I suspect we will always continue to renew our passes. It's all very well saying true fans (whatever that means) will always buy a pass but for a lot of people the rugby is not an obsession but a leisure activity and they will drift away if the product is poor. I'm sure AP is well aware we have a hardcore of support and to a certain extent he can just forget about those (whilst fully appreciating them) and concentrate on the floating support. That floating support see the rugby as a leisure activity and not a passion so telling them are not a true supporter if they dont renew is meaningless. Get the product right on the pitch and they will allocate some of that precious leisure time to the rugby. Get it wrong and they will look for other things to do. It's already happening.
Having said all that I'll be renewing this week.'"
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Here we go again, back a couple of days and causing grief.
Nobody is celebrating mediocrity. We've been largely awful for seven years and it es us off but if wasn't for people continuing to part with their hard earned cash supporting the club through the turnstiles there'd be no club left.'"
See even as a Rovers fan I agree we don't support mediocracy. We support the team, always have always will. I can give you a thousand reasons Standee why we question our sanity every time our teams are fecking woeful and we say never again. But we do and always will. Its a passion that just wont die. Its a bitch.
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| Quote ="blakeysrobin"See even as a Rovers fan I agree we don't support mediocracy. We support the team, always have always will. I can give you a thousand reasons Standee why we question our sanity every time our teams are fecking woeful and we say never again. But we do and always will. Its a passion that just wont die. Its a bitch.'"
and my opinion is it's a barrier to success, but as I say, an opinion. Nothing more.
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| Quote ="Standee"and my opinion is it's a barrier to success, but as I say, an opinion. Nothing more.'"
So if nobody pays to watch and the ground is empty the team will be more successful. That's what your saying?
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| Quote ="blakeysrobin"So if nobody pays to watch and the ground is empty the team will be more successful. That's what your saying?'"
It worked for Huddersfield.
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| Quote ="blakeysrobin"So if nobody pays to watch and the ground is empty the team will be more successful. That's what your saying?'"
any business needs to learn what the customers want, not sound bites and rhetoric in the press.
We shall see what 2015 brings.
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| Quote ="SirStan"It worked for Huddersfield.'"
Remind me what they have won in terms of real silverware? hubcap doesn't count. They also have an owner who will pump in millions. Empty our ground to 2/3000 and see how long we last.
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| Quote ="blakeysrobin"Remind me what they have won in terms of real silverware? hubcap doesn't count. They also have an owner who will pump in millions. Empty our ground to 2/3000 and see how long we last.'"
It was an attempt at humour pal. Clearly I need to keep my day job.
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| Quote ="blakeysrobin"Remind me what they have won in terms of real silverware? hubcap doesn't count. They also have an owner who will pump in millions. Empty our ground to 2/3000 and see how long we last.'"
you've got 2 years left then sir.
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| Quote ="Standee"you've got 2 years left then sir.'"
You see, this is a variation on a well used theme. The rules are that you can't start to speculate on Rovers going bust until the season is officially over. Then, it's not "2 years" its 2 months max. You have let me down standee, a poster of your experience
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| Quote ="blakeysrobin"Remind me what they have won in terms of real silverware? hubcap doesn't count. They also have an owner who will pump in millions. Empty our ground to 2/3000 and see how long we last.'"
Spot on.
Anyone who thinks AP will respond to fans putting less money into the club by simply shovelling more in himself ad infinitum are deluded. He puts in enough to see us up to the cap, plus transfer fees, plus paying players off, plus investing in the academy. Whilst we may not agree with all his decisions he's doing it with the best intentions. Withholding our support as part of the deal is just risking sending the club to the wall in my opinion. No one else apart from AP wants to back us so we can either galvanize behind him, his best intentions and already significant backing, or sign the club's death warrant by pi$$ing off.
Two choices. Are you in the boat with the club, rowing and baling out water, or standing like a t on the bank shouting "You're sinking" with a self-righteous smirk and an extra £0.68 a day in your pocket for the next year? Have a word.
Bit dramatic that, going for a lie down.
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| Quote ="SirStan"You see, this is a variation on a well used theme. The rules are that you can't start to speculate on Rovers going bust until the season is officially over. Then, it's not "2 years" its 2 months max. You have let me down standee, a poster of your experience
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I don't think KR will go bust, nor will FC, too many dedicated fans throwing good money after bad and too much support from one of the worst local councils in England.
I do not expect to win either team to lift a trophy in 5 years, not with the players and coaches we have.
I genuinely hope I am wrong, for either side, because if no, then a single Hull side is a real possibility.
Abuse from Mrs B, hope that gets picked up.
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| Quote ="Standee"I don't think KR will go bust, nor will FC, too many dedicated fans throwing good money after bad and too much support from one of the worst local councils in England. =#FF0000Correct, on both counts.
I do not expect to win either team to lift a trophy in 5 years, not with the players and coaches we have. =#FF0000See above comment.
I genuinely hope I am wrong, for either side, because if no, then a single Hull side is a real possibility.
Abuse from Mrs B, hope that gets picked up. =#FF0000She's always been a potty mouth that one!'"
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| Quote ="Standee"pregnant goldfish attending games?'"
They are the ones [unot[/u supporting the cub, so no. Blimey what a wasted metaphor.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"They are the ones [unot[/u supporting the cub, so no. Blimey what a wasted metaphor.
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| Quote ="Standee"pregnant goldfish attending games?'"
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