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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"'"
Please point out where I have being derogatory or abusive to a poster? I've said Radford (in the third person) hasn't got an effing clue..if you think that needs to be marked out for moderation with regard to your obviously failed point..more fool you.
What my post that you helpfully highlighted was regarding constant abuse/derogatory/snidy remarks made directly toward myself from posters such as yourself..it seems you just can't help yourself but try to inflame the situation instead of passing a comment regarding Radfords remarks regarding 'fickle' fans..
Yes it's great that we won, hopefully more to come but instead of him going on about fans whom rightly or wrongly aren't turning up and being 'fickle' in his eyes, (and there are LOTS of reasons why fans would stop going to games)..he should just focus on the positives, we've a hell of a long way to go and his comments are just another nail in the coffin of my opinion on him that he hasn't got a clue, effing or otherwise..
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| Quote ="bonaire"He coached nothing.What he did was put on the field what he thought was a fit 17 he had available.
He had three hookers on the field at one time and particularly Howarth didn't know where he was supposed to be playing.Thats not coaching
He also continues to use Feka for an innefective 10 mins per game.
Whilst we are short of numbers he should recall Tyson-Wilson from Doncaster because if its only 10 mins he wants from the player then he would be more effective at the moment than Feka.
It was a great effort from the players but its just papering over the cracks and gives Radford a lifeline for another few weeks which we didn't need if you want this club to move forward'"
What a tool you are , no credit to the coach for the win ??? I mean really ?
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"Can't remember what he said exactly but basically he said he wasn't bothered about the fans who change their minds every week about their view but instead praised the 'hard core' fans who support the club through thick and thin. Fair enough in my opinion.'"
Fair enough that he has the right to comment, but to be honest if that's what he said then I can't even remotely see how he's got the slightest valid point. I don't see or speak to anyone changing their mind from week to week, I think most fans are pretty consistent in that they don't think he's up to the job. This board right now shows that, people are still not convinced by him after we've just beaten the champions, the only difference is that they are now getting stick for saying so.
Also, those that have criticising him are not not supporting the club (there's a subtle difference between supporting him and supporting the club). Most, if not all, want the best for the club and believe that he is not consistent with that.
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| First things first cracking win, thought we were going to blow it at the end. Need to back it up on Friday now & hopefully rack up some tries against Sheffield to build some more confidence.
Listening on the radio did anybody else hear them talking about Houghton taking the radio off Rich Horne (think it was Horne) while he was on the field with water. I assume this was to talk to the rest of the coaching staff but it obviously isn't aloud & apparently the match commissioner didn't look to pleased about it & made a note of it. Wonder if we'll see any repercussions from it?
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"Fair enough that he has the right to comment, but to be honest if that's what he said then I can't even remotely see how he's got the slightest valid point. I don't see or speak to anyone changing their mind from week to week, I think most fans are pretty consistent in that they don't think he's up to the job. This board right now shows that, people are still not convinced by him after we've just beaten the champions, the only difference is that they are now getting stick for saying so.
Also, those that have criticising him are not not supporting the club (there's a subtle difference between supporting him and supporting the club). Most, if not all, want the best for the club and believe that he is not consistent with that.'"
How do you get to the conclusion that MOST fans ??
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| Quote ="bonaire"He coached nothing.'"
If his bad coaching is responsible for our losses then it's only fair he gets credit for the wins. Let's face it, that hasn't exactly been an onerous task over the last several months.
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| Quote ="bonaire"He coached nothing.What he did was put on the field what he thought was a fit 17 he had available.
He had three hookers on the field at one time and particularly Howarth didn't know where he was supposed to be playing.Thats not coaching
He also continues to use Feka for an innefective 10 mins per game.
Whilst we are short of numbers he should recall Tyson-Wilson from Doncaster because if its only 10 mins he wants from the player then he would be more effective at the moment than Feka.
It was a great effort from the players but its just papering over the cracks and gives Radford a lifeline for another few weeks which we didn't need if you want this club to move forward'"
Nothing like a good "It's down to the players when we win and the coach when we lose" argument.
By the way he lost Hadley after 5 mins so was probably unable to rotate his fit 17 any other way. What would you have done - played with 12 so we didn't have 3 hookers on at once ?
If we lose to Widnes then he's missed my target of 2 wins from 3 over Easter and I'd get rid personally. I could never, ever be disappointed with a win though unless perhaps it saved KR from relegation. Any fan who wants Hull to lose isn't a fan - that's my opinion and it won't be changed.
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"Bloody hell who are you ?
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I'm just a fan, same as you. However I haven't decided to judge fellow fans for not praising Radford for one win.
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| Quote ="bonaire"He coached nothing.What he did was put on the field what he thought was a fit 17 he had available.
He had three hookers on the field at one time and particularly Howarth didn't know where he was supposed to be playing.Thats not coaching
He also continues to use Feka for an innefective 10 mins per game.
Whilst we are short of numbers he should recall Tyson-Wilson from Doncaster because if its only 10 mins he wants from the player then he would be more effective at the moment than Feka.
It was a great effort from the players but its just papering over the cracks and gives Radford a lifeline for another few weeks which we didn't need if you want this club to move forward'"
Unfortunately, the Internet gives every bonehead a platform.
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| Quote ="bonaire"He coached nothing.What he did was put on the field what he thought was a fit 17 he had available.
He had three hookers on the field at one time and particularly Howarth didn't know where he was supposed to be playing.Thats not coaching
He also continues to use Feka for an innefective 10 mins per game.
Whilst we are short of numbers he should recall Tyson-Wilson from Doncaster because if its only 10 mins he wants from the player then he would be more effective at the moment than Feka.
It was a great effort from the players but its just papering over the cracks and gives Radford a lifeline for another few weeks which we didn't need if you want this club to move forward'"
Cheer up, we are one day closer to Radford leaving the club. Just enjoy the win.
Thanks for the wallpapering metaphor though.
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| Quote ="Legends and Icons"How do you get to the conclusion that MOST fans ??'"
Extrapolated from those I know, sit near, and on here. It's not a fact, just my opinion from the impression I get.
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"I'm just a fan, same as you. However I haven't decided to judge fellow fans for not praising Radford for one win.'"
No - but you've told us all when we're allowed to
Some of the vitriol towards Radford on here is disgraceful in my opinion I like to highlight how disingenuous some 'fans' are.
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"No - but you've told us all when we're allowed to
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That's not what I said. People are allowed to whenever they want. What I said was when they should be expected to, as in when I think it would be fair to call them into question for not doing so, as you are now.
Quote ="Staffs FC"Some of the vitriol towards Radford on here is disgraceful in my opinion I like to highlight how disingenuous some 'fans' are.'"
Personal abuse is not right. Commenting on how he does the job is fair game.
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| Quote ="Legends and Icons"Needed widnes with 22startto finish off my bet for £70 , can't believe there rested players
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Hanging in there
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| Quote ="K-Diddy"Listening on the radio did anybody else hear them talking about Houghton taking the radio off Rich Horne (think it was Horne) while he was on the field with water. I assume this was to talk to the rest of the coaching staff but it obviously isn't aloud & apparently the match commissioner didn't look to pleased about it & made a note of it. Wonder if we'll see any repercussions from it?'"
It was Rankin who took the radio I think, and the match commissioner was indeed unimpressed. I suspect we may cop a fine but nothing worse than that.
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| Good and very important win, like others have said we must back it up on Friday and kick on from now on. We have plenty of key players missing at least 6 that would make the 17.
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| Quote ="dayvoz"Hanging in there'"
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| 3 home games in SL now, win all three and things will look a lot different hopefully, obviously beat Sheffield in the cup.
Hopefully get some key players back.
Massive chance for Radford and the players to kick on now.
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| A wins a win and no matter how they come I will take it at the moment. However Mr Radford you may not today be bothered about the fans that haven't turned up today or tomorrow but remember last time you got cocky on Radio we lost the next four games. A few points for you to intake.
1) You beat a depleted St Helens side who took a battering on Friday had no half backs and lots of youngsters.
2) Despite the win we are still 11th.
3) I was here long before you came and will be long after you go. However with the dross you serve up most weeks on occasions I may decide to invest my money and time in other ways.
4) We have seen this stuff far too often, win one game then lose the next couple. Back it up over the next few weeks and you may just get cut some slack.
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| Quote ="pmarrow"A wins a win and no matter how they come I will take it at the moment. However Mr Radford you may not today be bothered about the fans that haven't turned up today or tomorrow but remember last time you got cocky on Radio we lost the next four games. A few points for you to intake.
1) You beat a depleted St Helens side who took a battering on Friday had no half backs and lots of youngsters.
2) Despite the win we are still 11th.
3) I was here long before you came and will be long after you go. However with the dross you serve up most weeks on occasions I may decide to invest my money and time in other ways.
4) We have seen this stuff far too often, win one game then lose the next couple. Back it up over the next few weeks and you may just get cut some slack.'"
Fair points. Emotions running high all round. Although on 1) we had 7 out and lost Hadley. Injury situations played a draw for me.
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| Well gotta say, unexpected but that win has made this weekend finish off with a smile on our faces.
Thought the lads looked much sharper than in recent weeks and we had a lot of luck too which has been missing recently..
I think Lee Radford was wrong to dig at supporters who are worried and worried based upon HIS record as a coach ! one win a grand final does not make but for one week we can again talk about merit not more disappointment ,we can celebrate a good win, against a good side..
The biggest worry to me from this game is some weak goal line defense, to be honest Turner should have been smashed but wasnt..
BUT tonight a few will be had, a smile is trying to break through
well done lads , thank you for listening to the fans and coming out to win and winning!!!
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Fair points. Emotions running high all round. Although on 1) we had 7 out and lost Hadley. Injury situations played a draw for me.'"
The quality of they 7 missing are far superior to ours! Good 2 points, just hope we can back it up Friday, back to square one if not. Well done to all the fans who travelled today, hats of to you
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| Quote ="pmarrow"A wins a win and no matter how they come I will take it at the moment. However Mr Radford you may not today be bothered about the fans that haven't turned up today or tomorrow but remember last time you got cocky on Radio we lost the next four games. A few points for you to intake.
1) You beat a depleted St Helens side who took a battering on Friday had no half backs and lots of youngsters.
2) Despite the win we are still 11th.
3) I was here long before you came and will be long after you go. However with the dross you serve up most weeks on occasions I may decide to invest my money and time in other ways.
4) We have seen this stuff far too often, win one game then lose the next couple. Back it up over the next few weeks and you may just get cut some slack.'"
well said, cracking post that one!!
As the man said , some of us have been with the club longer than they care to remember, through relegations at one end and cup wins at the other end of the scale we have stayed the course despite what some coaches and owners have done to the club no one can question that
BUT as supporters Long term supporters and newbies we all have a right to comment on what we see in front of us..
I am chuffed to bits we beat Saints today BUT i will only consider the corner turned if we start backing this up with more of the same!
I hope we do, but dear we wont.. i am happy to put my hands up if I am wrong but LR is simply not experienced enough , simple as that ...and his comments about supporters shows that more today than performances on the grass..
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| Quote ="Tinkerman23"The quality of they 7 missing are far superior to ours! Good 2 points, just hope we can back it up Friday, back to square one if not. Well done to all the fans who travelled today, hats of to you'"
Well, they have a better squad than us. The point is that the relative dilution of quality was broadly similar. We were missing our captain, scrum half, first choice starting prop, best centre and at least two others who'd have been selected. They were clearly short in the halves and FB but they had a pack with LMS, Roby, Walmsley, Amor, Masoe etc.
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