In the next 5 we play 3 of the top 5 and both teams fighting for relegation. Tricky run incoming.

so Ashworth and Tindall are inspiring?
Think you can add those two to your uninspiring list

Hiku and AJ Wallace also confirmed for rovers. HDM seem to think Evalds done, but nothing confirmed yet.

But alot of signings don't get announced till end of season Clifford was October/November time iirc

But we do need atleast 8 players

Winger
Centre
Scrum half
2 props
Hooker
2 2nd rows

Hull are losing a lot of their best players and nobody of note replacing them yet.

Tony Smith sometimes signs players on big money like Vete, Sims and Takairangi so he by no means always gets it right.

We won't know for a few months yet but right now Hull FC 2024 looks weaker than Hull FC 2023.

Thanks captain obvious.

I highly doubt we’ll sign 8 players. 6 max I think.

Can see Taylor and Houghton going again for one more year.

Realistically, Shaul is replaced internally by Litten, Griffin by Scott, Evans by Brown/Gardiner. Mitch and Wynne were always a squad players and will be replaced internally too. Savelio will stay I think/hope.

That leaves:
Swift -> Tindall
Lovodua -> Ashworth
Satae -> ?
Clifford -> ?
Dwyer -> ?

On top if that I we need another SR.

Rob Burrow for one counter acts that last statement.

Rob Burrow was a scrum half and didnt play in the forwards

Yep burrows job wasn't to barge over players

Which a forwards job is to dominate their opposition!

Wow!! Its so good to have all of these experts on our forum.

Saints 18 v 6 Huddersfield h/t.

Saints 20 v 18 Hudds 71 minutes.

Need Saints to win this.

Saints have just scored at the death. Means we stay in eighth place.

FT 32-18, good result for us.

That's put us out of our misery at least

We can look back at those seven in a row defeats and think if only .

Don't worry there's more to come next season.

We can all sleep easy until next February.

A home win over the Loiners would perk us up.

We all hate Leeds, we all hate Leeds

Need to win one of our last four or smith has taken us backwards this season

Id agree but I also think our squad was weaker for this season that the last 2, also losing Hoy has been a big blow.

Id start to play the kids now, good chance to see whos ready for 2024 or not. No point playing players like Lovodua and Dwyer who are going and not playing well.

I think most of us would agree we are now in (very) long-shot territory in regard to top-six hopes!

Whether or not we make the six, I think the key over these last four games is, what is our attitude and commitment like?

TS should be using these four games to drill into the squad that our aim should always be to win the game which is happening in front of us, irrespective of opponent or surrounding circumstance.

The very best always seek to win, at all times, which tends naturally to lead to a winning mentality which in turn produces a successful side. The aim should be to have that mentality as an ingrained attitude running through the club as a whole and not on some ad-hoc basis.
Over the past 5/6 years we have been guilty of the complete opposite to this attitude. We've reached a point where the play-offs seem out of reach and the towel has been thrown in, leading to some horrendous 8/9 games in the closing weeks of the season, as we've sat and suffered in abject horror.

Tony Smith has twice changed the mentality of under-achieving clubs; at Leeds, twenty years ago, and (to a slightly lesser extent) at Warrington. Can he repeat it for a third time with us?
Only time will tell on that, but this next month seems as good a place as any to alter that mind-set which is the underlying source of why we, as a club, never quite seem to be where we all think we should be. All journeys have to start somewhere!

I think the effort is there just some players arent top6 quality, and we have been a prop short all season so a lot of weeks the pack isnt on top and that makes it a lot harder.