They were 1 defeat away from sacking him. A young Mark Robbins saved his bacon. Please dont tell me you just compared probably the most sucessful manager in history with Richard Agar?





I can the similarites in the situation in that the first thing Fergie had to do when he took over at Utd was get rid of all the heads but I dont see Agar as having a strong enough personality to get the rest of the squad to believe in him and his tactics. Time will tell I suppose.

Firstly: Why shouldn't I compare him to Fergie. For all we know, in 10 years time we'll have won the Grand Final several times and the Challenge Cup the same. If Man U had sacked Fergie I wouldn't even have been able to draw the comparison.

Secondly: I don't know how I keep getting caught up in defending Agar. I'm not a fan of his - it just gets a bit boring when every thread turns into an Agar-hating one. It's really eay to drop a glib comment into every thread saying "of course Agar will get rid of him" or "Agar was probably busy blaming the supporters". Even after this Saturday, when no-one had mentioned that the loss to Rovers was his fault, a thread started specifically to start the baiting up once again.

just a little thought....but surely the signing of Sam Moa was down to Agar in the first place...............

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:1hzc3eetNo, he's just a sh! t rugby coach.

I don't know if Agar signed him up or the Board. Do you? And anyway, there are plenty of people on here who have defended that particular action in other threads because they rate Cusack. Note, I didn't say wehther I rate Cusack or not - just that plenty on here do.

Agar would have to be here for the next 50 years to even get close to Fergie.

What an awful surname.

No - saying that having success in Scottish Football represents any sort of managerial credentials is the laughable part.

Prove it!

Very true. I don't think there is anyone on here that thinks Agar has proven himself as a coach and that he hasn't made any mistakes. Far from it. Some of the ways in which people contort facts in order to make attack after attack on him is however pathetic.

Even breaking a stranglehold of two massive clubs with a much smaller side (something that has never been achieved since)? or if not, you must have missed me mentioning the European success.

GM1 is right about you, if you're not Jon Sharp then you're someone who's willing to say anything to not lose an argument.

Don't even get me started on that comment about the board re-signing Cusack.

I should have called him Mark Robbo

You cant prove an opinion.

So let's check the facts that I mentioned: Agar brought Sam Moa to the club and has nurtured his development (as part of a "project"icon_wink.gif. End of facts - disagree with them if you like. Sam is now being touted as a great prospect - which I think is what Agar saw in him. As far as I know, Agar may have had nothing to do with re-signing Cusack (I really don't know) and may want to sign Moa (why bring him here in the first place if he didn't). So what has changed since he brought him in. Have the rules on the quota changed? Have we signed any more overseas players? it seems to me that there is a lot of conjecture turning to FACT that naturally leads to blaming Agar for something that hasn't even happened yet.

Doing it with Aberdeen is pretty impressive. They also won the European Cup Winners Cup (a prestigous trophy in its time), beating Real Madrid in the final. In many respects I think that might be Ferguson's single greatest achievement. Man Utd had won the European Cup before him and may well win in it after he is gone.

Or the future. I agree absolutely. I don't know if Agar is the man for the job - I hope he is - but I do think he deserves a fair crack of the whip.

Give up you clown!

Yes - you see I was being glib.

I'm not one for calling for coaches to be sacked etc but it will take a pretty big turnaround next season for me to want us to renew his contract.

And for me too! I expect top four. That means a very good showing after 6 games. By that time he will have had approximately two years at the helm, he should have had a clearout of the players he doesn't believe have a future at the club and, please God, we will be without injuries.

If we get lots of injuries I think he needs to go because we need to change our luck - he might be the one that drove over the black cat.

Agree. Sadly i can see us scraping a few wins by playing poor rugby and him keeping his job. A repeat of the start of 2009.

Did you go to Alphonso Horatio Effington's School of Quick Wit and Repartee?

and so he goes on.....

Who were you (on here, I mean) before you were Uncle Junior?