Meh... same shat different week

Yes it was Watts.That and his two back to back penalties have cost us the game

That's two games in a row he's cost us. Needs to be dropped for next week.

He has cost us the game tonight with his back to back penalties which they scored from and his error near the end.
Cost us the game against Cas also.
Pryce will also get the chop

We do it so consistently though. We are right in 95% of games right up to the last 10 minutes, but we are clueless as to how to turn them into wins. We are definitely playing better rugby, but it's all the same old frailties that raise their head time after time.

If we still have proper top 4 aspirations we need to win the next 3 now, it's non negotiable. In fact you can probably add Warrington on Easter Monday to that aswell. If we aren't 5 from 8 (at least) after Easter given the way we started the season then that's just not good enough.

Pretty poor performance against an understrength and well-drilled Wigan team who came ready to grind it out. Some awful decisions in attack. The comeback was very good but ATEOTD it's back to the same old of being in the arm wrestle but losing narrowly. Really disappointing.

Ffs we seem to do it over and over again. Gutted. But we are not far off IMO and the comeback shows we have commitment in the team. But we really need to get something from.these matches

Let's be realistic here folks, we are not going to win the competition. The rugby is far better than it has been for several years, we are competing and we are scoring points. Before the season started who would've expected to win more than 2 of the first 4 games??

I agree though the next 3 games has to be 6 points to keep in touch. Widnes have started really well yes but they have also played Rovers and Wakefield already and lost to Salford. Before tonight Huddersfield and Leeds hadn't won a game between them either.

Onwards and upwards, this team is still learning to play with each other but I reckon the signs are positive.....

Ffs do you actually go to any of the matches seb? We are where we are. I said 5/6 this year and I won't be far off. We aren't far off and indivdual.mistakes are killing us. But am still confid nt we have a better team.than last year

There's a lot of last season's mistakes & brainfarts creeping in to this season already . Clueless with the ball , passing from acting half all over the place , Salford at times , Cas & now Wigan look a gear or two faster than us .

Exactly this, we've come no closer to winning close games than when Radford took charge.
The mentality just doesn't seem good enough and we make the same mistakes time after time.

Really disappointing reaction to the Cas defeat. More poor individual errors costing us competition points.

Have to say that our half backs are simply not consistent enough. Largely annonymous tonight.

Reminded me a lot of last season apart from a 15 minute spell. Dominated territory, they went to outer end 4 times and score 4 try's? Goal line defence was poor again. Really dumb play again at times, particularly with penalties and the offload at the end. Players won't learn until they are dropped, and you have to start with Watts.

Radford got his subs wrong again, no way should he have taken off Taylor with 8 mins to go, Mini played the 80 and at one point we had Manu, Ellis, Taylor and Watts on the bench, that should never happen.

Must win game next week in many ways.

must admit big game against widnes

Your right on the interchange Dave.I think Radford goes to sleep sometimes.I also dont like the way Manu is interchanged,for me he is doing the same with Manu as he did last season with Mini.
Watts and Pryce dropped for next week.We cant continue to carry Pryce when he plays for just 15 minutes.

Neither look like controlling a game , Even when were on the front foot .

Pryce would drop didn't think sneyd was that bad tbh

I thought Sneyd showed it in some parts and his kicking game was good. Pryce only played for 5 minutes and got us back in the game. Not sure what the answer is, as if we move Carlos who plays centre? Would have to be Abdul.

Sorry but with the squad we have which is the best by far in 10 years at least with proper headline names we should be doing far better than 5th/6th.
5th IS failure, not getting to a final this year IS a failure. The yardstick to define failure has already being set at the end of 2013.
Whilst it's still early doors not being able to close out games we've had ample chances to win due to dumb rugby and same old mistakes is unacceptable.

This is the question.

Think Sneyd was given MOM

Which player gave away the penalty for the off the ball challenge at the end when Shaul caught the ball?

Well what can I say? I thought it was pretty much the same blueprint as cas game. Rubbish in first half with too many penalties, a period of about 15 minutes where we dominated and got into the lead and then threw it away late on with a silly penalty. Sums it up.

Ridiculous comment. The Challenge Cup is a random draw. If we draw Wigan or Leeds away and lose that is not a failure.

No idea, one of a few questionable decisions from thaler

1st minute forward pass, where? Wigan score, tautai nit even sent to the bin but placed on report so no doubt will miss the next game, sargison loses the ball and looks up at thaler all dough eyes and gets the penalty

Whilst not the reason we lost he played a big part in some questionable decisions against us


Time and time we over play and panic near the opposition line then let in a soft try likevtheir second and third tries