Great to see Calders back at least somebody will show some fight and passion for the club.




Bloody hell who expected to hear when we signed him?

they make more sense than half the drivel on here!

Tansey (specialist FB - so we're led to believe)
Calderwood
Hall
Yeaman
Raynor
Whiting
Berrigan
King
Houghton
Corona
Burnett
Manu
Tickle - think a better option at LF than Radford

Moa
G.Horne
Radford
R.Horne

Lee n Thorman dropped with both Hornes and Radford dropped to the bench.

i'd go with that team but maybe radford on the bench instead of g horne as prop because i don't think your going to get alot of game time out of cordoba and moa

Fair point, 2 props, a second row and a hooker on the bench seems to be a better idea.

Tansey
Calderwood
Hall
Yeaman
Raynor
Horne
Berrigan
Cordoba
Lee
King
Manu
Tickle
Radford

Houghton
Moa
Burnett
Whiting

yeah but there's 1 in the 19 who shouldn't be in after his antics in training this week

Tansey ?

Why do you never tell us who?

there are 14 who shouldn't be in after their antics last Sunday

I'd like to see

Tansey
Calderwood
Yeaman
Hall
Raynor
Horne
Berrigan
Cordoba
Lee
King
Tickle
Manu
Whiting

Moa
Houghton
Maloney
Burnett

But just can't see Agar picking anything other than the usual. After Cas I would have been pleased to see more changes than he has made with only Broughton who hasn't let anyone down getting dropped, go figure. If we are expecting major changes next season to the playing staff I think we will see very few. Agar talks the talk but little else some of the so called "Blokes" as he put it that had rugby doen their list of priorities should have been dropped from the 20.

Because unless he's [ivery[/i sure of his facts and has some evidence to back them up, he knows that his post would vanish as if by magic.

British libel laws are the most draconian in the world.

If thats what you think good for you,i know different

What?



I wasn't commenting on whether your information is true or not, I was explaining how easy it is to get done for libel in this country. And yes - you [ican[/i libel someone with the truth if you can't [iprove[/i that it's the truth.

Do people think that the case with Radders never been dropped is just because he is captain at the club or is it that the coaching staff thinks he does a good job?





I'd go with the latter.

As a prop he does do a good job. Far better than Dowes, King, Thacks or Maloney.

Why does he always seem to think he needs to turn into the tackle? He hardly ever gets an offload away so I don't see the point in it.

As soon as he puts his back towards the defence, he gains no further metres due to not having any leg drive.

Couldnt disagree more. Radders is our only forward who does have an offload. The leeds game the other week shows this. His issue is that named at 13 people expect him to be a ball handling loose forward. He plays as a prop and for me makes better yards than most of our pack as well as defensively been one of the only players we have that consistently wins the collision. If we had support his turning in the tackle may lead to more 2nd phase rugby too but no one is bothered.

I agree about the 2nd phase rugby but to say that he does have an offload is abit too far for me. This season he has only managed to make 15 offloads all season. Danny tickle is our highest offloader with 34 and our only player in the top 25 offloads. So he hardly offloads and when he or any of our other players do, we never take advantage of this and as I said before turning in the tackle is a bad option for me.

Tickle has also played twice as much game time than Radford. Tickle misses far more tackles per minute on the pitch and also gives far more penalties away. His attitude also stinks. Dont understand still 2 or 3 years down the line why Radford has the knockers that he does and Tickle doesnt.

Putting Tickle to one side, i dont think Radford will be with us next year but i wouldnt be disappointed if he was.

I'll leave the turning in the tackle business, it's been done to death. However:



No he doesn't. That's one of his major problems. He used to. He used to even when he was playing for much longer. Now, he doesn't often. If at all. He frequently ends up on the wrong side through both not being in a good position prior to impact and not making good enough contact. That means he's often struggling to get properly set at marker. And, before you come back and say that that can't be the case as he's our top tackler from marker, why do you think he is put in a position to make so many marker tackles? It's obviously not because he's like Calderwood and can chase down the ball even if it passes through two or three pairs of hands. So what is it? I'd suggest that it's as a direct result of him not winning the collision very often and being caught on the wrong side. That means teams are more likely to scoot after Radford's been involved in the tackle, with the chance to gain easy ground and Radford, therefore, has more chance to make marker tackles.

Most people are placing Whiting at loose man, why the hell doesnt Agar do this? the team he is fielding at the mo clearly arent winning games, switch players into different positions in training, see what they can do in them positions, something needs to be done to get the results, try something different Mr. Agar.

Most of his offloads in that game came as a result of him being driven back towards his own line and out of desperation.

As for winning the collision, really Dave? He just turns around and tries to fall over, he seems to get dominated nearly all the time. He does try and gain quick ptb's I will grant him that but he makes seldom few yards.

[url=http://www.sporthull.co.uk/rugby_league/hull_fc/news/displayarticle.php?ID=13336Hall at fullback tomorrow?[/url

That would be just about right.

Outstanding in the centre at Widnes, so it makes perfect sense to bring him back and play him full-back.