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| Brian Smith turned a hapless team into
a flookin amazing team in 1-2 seasons
No big signings - just Gary Nolan winning the GF with a reach out try !
Crusher Cleal was quite a big signing I suppose
JC could easily do the same with this
Mob
Great to see the Cash from Thirkill being put to good use on breakfasts and the like.
It all counts
But strong leadership with accountability is priceless
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| Seems like the first week has been harder than the whole of last pre season as whole.
Fantastic to hear the positive comments so far.
They are certainly putting in the hours. In at 7 and finishing around 3.
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| Quote ="Tarquin Fuego"Brian Smith turned a hapless team into
a flookin amazing team in 1-2 seasons
No big signings - just Gary Nolan winning the GF with a reach out try !
Crusher Cleal was quite a big signing I suppose
JC could easily do the same with this
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Great to see the Cash from Thirkill being put to good use on breakfasts and the like.
It all counts
But strong leadership with accountability is priceless'"
Ah Brian Smith
Some would say it's harder to do in the modern game but is it? I'm not sure it is. Brian Smith was a charismatic figurehead who not only did wonders with a poor team but also spearheaded the installation of new floodlights the demolition and replacement of the Threepenny Stand and the revamping of the in ground bar facilities to try to mirror the Leagues Clubs in Australia. However, he arrived with the team having eclipsed the great escape fro relegation the previous season by the skin of our teeth and did it by beating Rovers at caravan park with 6 missing. Under the temporary coaching of Tony Dean and Keith Hepworth who had taken over from Casey with us in a real rut, they over saw an improvement but we had a really poor team that regularly under performed under Casey ands had massive attitude issues under him too. recognise anything?
Enter Brian Smith who just signed four Aussies Colman Moon Boyle and Henry and after he instigated an open trial which attracted 70 players from across Yorkshire we got Ian Marlow signed up from Local RU. That's all we saw coming in of any substance whilst he immediately dropped Pearce (Pearce was over weight and under performing.... recognise anything here too?) Proctor and Tomlinson into the A team and we proceeded to lose our first 4 games. However we ended up as beaten finalists at Old Trafford at the end of the season after some historic performances, (who can forget the 35-20 victory at Wigan that some Wigan fans I know still insist instigated the Wigan walk) along the way. Brian Smith was a real Miracle worker and so miracles do happen. Or they did. Sadly for us not that often these days though!!!
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| Brian Smith was truly the Messiah
He turned average into good
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Great into Excellent
The finest man manager ever IMO as he had no cash and worked from a shocking low base
Could JC be the new BS or is it just that ? Bs
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| Loved Gray Pearce - he's fat, he's round, he's worth a million pound, Gary Pearce!!!!
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| I remember when Pearce had just joined Hull from RU. Real early on in his Hull career, think it was at Featherstone he was about to take a conversion practically under the posts, the ball fell over as he had just stated his run up. Not knowing in RL he could simply stand it back up, he attempted to flick the ball over as it was on its side on the floor! Everyone was wtf!?? Apparently in RU if it fell over that was the rule and that’s why players used to lay down and hold the ball to stop it blowing over in windy conditions before the kicker kicked it. Still, can’t remember the last time I saw a teammate holding the ball at goal kick/oenalty.
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| Quote ="TitanicClown"I remember when Pearce had just joined Hull from RU. Real early on in his Hull career, think it was at Featherstone he was about to take a conversion practically under the posts, the ball fell over as he had just stated his run up. Not knowing in RL he could simply stand it back up, he attempted to flick the ball over as it was on its side on the floor! Everyone was wtf!?? Apparently in RU if it fell over that was the rule and that’s why players used to lay down and hold the ball to stop it blowing over in windy conditions before the kicker kicked it. Still, can’t remember the last time I saw a teammate holding the ball at goal kick/oenalty.'"
We used to do it in the playground at West Dock Infants!
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| There has certainly been a seismic shift in the club with arrival of Cartwright as HC.
I feel the decisions by Rowley & Lam not to take on the role have been a blessing in disguise.
So far from what seems to be transpiring in pre season is a club that is being lead both on & off the field in terms of the playing aspect.
Myler has been heavily involved in rebalancing the cap spend with in a squad that had been totally mismanaged for far too long.
Cartwright already seems to be a man that places a lot of value on leadership both in his playing staff but also in his coaching staff.
I can’t remember the last time players took part in full day sessions so that is another big change.
It was known but now seems very apparent in his short time here already that he is a man that has exacting standards that he expects to be met as a minimum requirement for pro players.
I don’t know how far up the table we’ll finish but to have a guy with the experience of Cartwright and to have come here fresh from the NRL and Origin can not be understated as a huge plus.
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| I hope it will be seen as a three season project when he will have had time to sign some of his first choice Aussies with a full year to run at recruitment for 2026 and 2027 but everything is at least on a professional footing again.
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| Quote ="TitanicClown"I remember when Pearce had just joined Hull from RU. Real early on in his Hull career, think it was at Featherstone he was about to take a conversion practically under the posts, the ball fell over as he had just stated his run up. Not knowing in RL he could simply stand it back up, he attempted to flick the ball over as it was on its side on the floor! Everyone was wtf!?? Apparently in RU if it fell over that was the rule and that’s why players used to lay down and hold the ball to stop it blowing over in windy conditions before the kicker kicked it. Still, can’t remember the last time I saw a teammate holding the ball at goal kick/oenalty.'"
Great recollection. I remember in a press conference after we had won a game at the Boulevard and Pearce had just got back in the team after Smith dropped him to the A team. He'd scored the first try and Smith christened him when he said "We moved the ball left and Porky rolled over near the corner flag" everyone laughed and a legend was born . great player!
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| Quote ="The Dentist Wilf"I hope it will be seen as a three season project when he will have had time to sign some of his first choice Aussies with a full year to run at recruitment for 2026 and 2027 but everything is at least on a professional footing again.'"
Talking to one of the lads in the elite talent group and his first words were '' It's just so much more professional''. He said it's been quite hard to believe just how much has changed and how so much better everything is.
Carty is massive on creating that brotherhood within the squad. He had them meet up on their day off last Thursday to spend some time together.
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| Quote ="RockNRolla"Talking to one of the lads in the elite talent group and his first words were '' It's just so much more professional''. He said it's been quite hard to believe just how much has changed and how so much better everything is.
Carty is massive on creating that brotherhood within the squad. He had them meet up on their day off last Thursday to spend some time together.'"
Was fortunate to get one of the player's telephone calls yesterday evening (Yusuf Aydin) and he said someting very similar. Recalling how Aydin impressed me with how he threw himself into every game last season, I sense that those type of players will revel in Cartwright's approach.
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| Quote ="EtonStreetRifle"We used to do it in the playground at West Dock Infants!'"
How the bloody hell did you heel a divot in that concrete never mind hold the ball up to kick. West Dock Infants year 1958
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| Quote ="Armavinit"How the bloody hell did you heel a divot in that concrete never mind hold the ball up to kick. West Dock Infants year 1958
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Tough as old boots us Hessle Road lads.
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| Oliver Holmes in any training footage?
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| Quote ="Tarquin Fuego"Brian Smith was truly the Messiah
The finest man manager ever IMO as he had no cash and worked from a shocking low base '"
The guy who wrote the book on man management was Roy Francis - Smith was not in the same ballpark.
Smith was fairly successful in Aus but was also known as the coach who never won anything in spite of having some great teams (like Parramatta). Had 4 goes at winning GF's and lost all four - hardly a messiah.
Very successful at winning wooden spoons, however, with 3 to his name,
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| Quote ="Armavinit"How the bloody hell did you heel a divot in that concrete never mind hold the ball up to kick. West Dock Infants year 1958
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If you caught it right, it'd sail over the wall and into Langham club yard. If you was nifty you could swipe a bottle of Saspirella when the teacher sent you to collect the ball!
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| Quote ="hullandbroncos"Oliver Holmes in any training footage?'"
I haven't seen him but I think the Leigh boys were given an extra couple of weeks off due to Leigh being in the playoffs. I think Hardaker started this week. Asiata is getting a little bit longer.
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| Quote ="Mr. Zucchini Head"I haven't seen him but I think the Leigh boys were given an extra couple of weeks off due to Leigh being in the playoffs. I think Hardaker started this week. Asiata is getting a little bit longer.'"
Yeah still not seen him and he hardly played for Leigh at the end did he?
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| Quote ="hullandbroncos"Yeah still not seen him and he hardly played for Leigh at the end did he?'"
He didn't play the 2nd test for Samoa but unsure if due to injury or just decided they wanted a different player in. The t sta extended Gia season by about a month so makes sense if he's having a rest.
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| Holmes was in the minutes silence huddle on rememberance day but I've not seen him in any of the training clips
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| Saw Asiata in the gym this morning. Getting some miles in those legs and the. A couple of sprints.
Blokes in fantastic knick and in gym at 6:00 am. That’s the sort of attitude we need. Ligi, Abdull & Ese’ese are the only other players I regularly see putting some graft in.
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