[quote="Steve0":ja4s3ylz]Sims/Whitehead will have a field day if Fash is in the second row[/quote:ja4s3ylz] Wasn't the case against Fax at the weekend

[quote="mwindass":i7q65001]Wasn't the case against Fax at the weekend[/quote:i7q65001] I don’t even know who Fax’s back rowers were at weekend but I know they’ll be better than Fash.

We need to attack Pangai Jr, he was behind the play so much at the weekend, his fitness is way off - make him do back to back tackles

[quote="Irregs#16":3lvcx0xs]We need to attack Pangai Jr, he was behind the play so much at the weekend, his fitness is way off - make him do back to back tackles[/quote:3lvcx0xs] I can't believe how bad they was, agree with what you say, same with Satae, he looks unfit and was caught out early. Also they have a loose forward at hooker for our two hookers to try and exploit. The only player that looked good was Cotric

[quote="Tarquin Fuego":2ikmq2u8]This is a match where discipline wins The last game of last season we had the match won after 10 mins Then we knocked on 3x Have 6 penalties and 6 agains away Then we were behind and the heads went in a game we could easily have won So for me it’s very very flookin simple Completion rates and efforts in Defence and no penalties Do that and we win mickey around with 6 agains and knock ons and we’re inviting big trouble Carty will be hammering the basics into them I can only hope and pray[/quote:2ikmq2u8] Also the away game early last season. MM got sent off in the first 10 mins, we were drawing 6-6, only needed to play basic rugby for 30-40 mins, then let the extra man make the difference in the 2nd half. Then Ashworth got sent off on 20 mins (albeit slightly unfairly). Discipline is going to need to be a huge improvement area for us this season. Think it was about the first 10 games last season before we completed the game with 13 men on the pitch for all the 80 minutes.

[quote="Rugby Raider":3qp8fuaz]Also the away game early last season. MM got sent off in the first 10 mins, we were drawing 6-6, only needed to play basic rugby for 30-40 mins, then let the extra man make the difference in the 2nd half. Then Ashworth got sent off on 20 mins (albeit slightly unfairly). Discipline is going to need to be a huge improvement area for us this season. Think it was about the first 10 games last season before we completed the game with 13 men on the pitch for all the 80 minutes.[/quote:3qp8fuaz] Was Sao, but agree with the rest.

Whilst our first 2 games is very much a tough start to our 2025 season I always feel it better playing the better teams at the very start as its a bit of a leveller as teams haven't had chance to hit their stride and everyone is naturally a little ring rusty. I'm not expecting to come away from France with the 2pts available but the minimum requirement has to be for us to be a tough team to beat, show significant improvements in our discipline, fitness & structure and play and compete and work hard as a team from minute zero to the 80th. Catalans so far haven't looked a team that gelled yet so there is a slight opportunity to upset the odds, however slight that maybe.

Cats 1/4 on...FC getting 14 start....

[quote="Chris71":1t3tu9r4]Whilst our first 2 games is very much a tough start to our 2025 season I always feel it better playing the better teams at the very start as its a bit of a leveller as teams haven't had chance to hit their stride and everyone is naturally a little ring rusty. I'm not expecting to come away from France with the 2pts available but the minimum requirement has to be for us to be a tough team to beat, show significant improvements in our discipline, fitness & structure and play and compete and work hard as a team from minute zero to the 80th. Catalans so far haven't looked a team that gelled yet so there is a slight opportunity to upset the odds, however slight that maybe.[/quote:1t3tu9r4] Its certainly a good time to play at Catalan We should be using our two young wings and not go with this play Briscoe for his experience rubbish. if we play Barron on the right and Martin left then both of them have experience at centre with Hardaker and Rapana Briscoe will get game time as i think he will play centre when the coach moves Rapana back to full back. The least said about Fash the better

Fages could be out for Catalans too. Broken ribs

[quote="FC Callum":c5to1lai]I don’t even know who Fax’s back rowers were at weekend but I know they’ll be better than Fash.[/quote:c5to1lai] Apart from a couple of disciplinary issues last season l don’t understand the Fash bashing. He’s highly thought of within the club. Watch the Cas video

[quote="TnT":2rulbopv]Apart from a couple of disciplinary issues last season l don’t understand the Fash bashing. He’s highly thought of within the club. Watch the Cas video[/quote:2rulbopv] Couple of disciplinary issues? His discipline was awful every week at a time when we needed long serving players to step up.

[quote="bonaire":1liin3hm]Its certainly a good time to play at Catalan We should be using our two young wings and not go with this play Briscoe for his experience rubbish. if we play Barron on the right and Martin left then both of them have experience at centre with Hardaker and Rapana Briscoe will get game time as i think he will play centre when the coach moves Rapana back to full back. The least said about Fash the better[/quote:1liin3hm] Agree with you re Martin & Barron as both have impressed so far, and as you say with Rapana & Hardaker there’s plenty of experience next to them. It’s a long season and no doubt Briscoe will get game time but right now Martin & Barron have earned the chance for a starting place on Friday.

[quote="TnT":3h9dnv1h]Apart from a couple of disciplinary issues last season l don’t understand the Fash bashing. He’s highly thought of within the club. Watch the Cas video[/quote:3h9dnv1h] If I’m being kind, he’s below average, championship player at best. Worrying that Cas video with Last saying he’s a good player. Should be nowhere near the best 17 especially at back row.

[quote="TnT":1udcafsz]Apart from a couple of disciplinary issues last season l don’t understand the Fash bashing. He’s highly thought of within the club. Watch the Cas video[/quote:1udcafsz] Completely agree with you.

[quote="FC Callum":2cgv489o]If I’m being kind, he’s below average, championship player at best. Worrying that Cas video with Last saying he’s a good player. Should be nowhere near the best 17 especially at back row.[/quote:2cgv489o] He won't play back row, it was just to get minutes into him at weekend. Carty, Lane, Holmes, Jebson and Kirby all in front of him

Kendall is the ref

[quote="Irregs#16":36xl0vyh]Kendall is the ref[/quote:36xl0vyh] Can be squeaky clean but no doubt he always sees something nobody else does

[quote="Irregs#16":1q7f70na]Kendall is the ref[/quote:1q7f70na] Red card roulette anyone?

[quote="Yippee try yay":1zw1uq8d]Red card roulette anyone?[/quote:1zw1uq8d] Be nice if it wasn't us for once. I'll go TPJ for them

[quote="mwindass":1n209thd]Be nice if it wasn't us for once. I'll go TPJ for them[/quote:1n209thd] No chance with Kendall reffing Hull he always finds something, minimum 2 cards coming for Hull.

[quote="Yippee try yay":2ngr07nk]Red card roulette anyone?[/quote:2ngr07nk] I'd say it's unlikely, we'll thar based on the three challenge cup games I've watched, seems ti be alot more sensible and realistic than last season. Definitely be a red now

[quote="Irregs#16":3ithkqvt]Kendall is the ref[/quote:3ithkqvt] Thought it would have been Tomkins again

Its confirmed now that Fages is out. I don't really follow NRL but I thought captains challenge was coming in this season. Can you challenge a card ?

[quote="Ellam":armxlfyr]Completely agree with you.[/quote:armxlfyr] I think Fash is one of those no flash good pros that teammates appreciate and fans don’t understand. He wasn’t perfect last season but I have him in my squad anytime. Fans seem to be unhappy unless players make every tackle do 10 tackle busts and are mistake free. It’s unrealistic.