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| Quote ="yorksguy1865"Offensive.'"
It's ok, he is a mod
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| Quote ="Sheldon"Not really, we see it after every game.
The ref thought it was red. There's not pre judged biased in any ref.
What are the fans gonna do with the game? The majority, myself included, arent qualified to run a company. If we were we wouldn't be squabbling on a forum that's lost more posters recently than SL has lost fans.'"
We are just blowing off a bit of steam, don't need to be insulted.
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| Quote ="FoD FC Army"It's a joke... the rfl are a joke... the referees are a joke... our game will stay a joke until people like Adam find like minded others to force the fat rl elite out and take back control for us fans.'"
Don't be daft.
In my opinion it was a really bad decision, but that's only my opinion. In the refs opinion it was a red. They can only call it how they see it, for better or worse, and until you have robots controlling the game, you are going to get calls you don't like. I'm not happy with the call, but that's sport. Take it on the chin and grow up.
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| Quote ="yorksguy1865"We are just blowing off a bit of steam, don't need to be insulted.'"
Join the minority.
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| Quote ="Isaiah"It's ok, he is a mod'"
At least you know your place.
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| yes it was the refs opinion, but it wasn't borderline, I honestly think if it had been a player from wigan leeds he would have got a yellow at worst and would properly not even have been awarded a penalty, it can ruin a game and some of the decisions are baffling,
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| The fact he was out cold brought out red. Not knocked out yellow or report
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| Quote ="FoD FC Army"It's a joke... the rfl are a joke... the referees are a joke... our game will stay a joke until people like Adam find like minded others to force the fat rl elite out and take back control for us fans.'"
It's not a joke, that's the problem - its big money. Tonight was pre-meditated by the RFL without a doubt in my opinion. You could see it in the behaviour of Hicks in both halves - the second-half relaxation followed by a final panic was an analyst's dream - Wigan needed to win that game.
Thomas Leuluai was embarrassed.
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| Quote ="Sheldon"
The ref thought it was red. There's not pre judged biased in any ref.
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I seriously doubt that statement as Hicks for me wasn't even looking and was given instruction through his ear piece. Bentham apparently called it for dangerous contact & careless by Watts!! Christ even Phil 'Mr Wigan' Clarke said it wasn't a red card.
Mcilorum just launched himself got it all wrong and came off second best and he himself has to take a responsibility for his technique. He was at it from the start and tried to put Watts' head in the turf in an earlier tackle. He's a cheap shot merchant and paid the cost tonight for trying to through a big hit and failing big style. It was his wreckless nature/attempt not Watts.
If that was genuinely a red card offence then the game is dead as tackling/running into defending players may as well be outlawed.
Hicks was appalling tonight and had lost all control after 5 mins if he had it in the first place. Wigan came with a game plan to mix it and Hicks allowed it boil over showing he was totally inept and out of his depth in that situation.
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| Quote ="Chris71"I seriously doubt that statement as Hicks for me wasn't even looking and was given instruction through his ear piece. Bentham apparently called it for dangerous contact & careless by Watts!! Christ even Phil 'Mr Wigan' Clarke said it wasn't a red card.
Mcilorum just launched himself got it all wrong and came off second best and he himself has to take a responsibility for his technique. He was at it from the start and tried to put Watts' head in the turf in an earlier tackle. He's a cheap shot merchant and paid the cost tonight for trying to through a big hit and failing big style. It was his wreckless nature/attempt not Watts.
If that was genuinely a red card offence then the game is dead as tackling/running into defending players may as well be outlawed.
Hicks was appalling tonight and had lost all control after 5 mins if he had it in the first place. Wigan came with a game plan to mix it and Hicks allowed it boil over showing he was totally inept and out of his depth in that situation.'"
Absolutely spot on, what gets me is the many super slow zoom in replays that sky showed which influenced the decision not once did they show it at full speed which shows the split second impact from Watts getting the ball to Mcllorum flying at him at full pelt which he got spectacularly wrong.
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| Wakey fan.
Wrong call for me, should have been a penalty at the most. He messed up the tackle against a bigger man and came off worse, it happens in every game. I don't think it looked like he deliberately raised his arm to make contact. Odd that in two games this round there has been a soft card given against the teams who if they'd won would have pretty much closed out the top 4
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| Quote ="WormInHand"It's not a joke, that's the problem - its big money. Tonight was pre-meditated by the RFL without a doubt in my opinion. You could see it in the behaviour of Hicks in both halves - the second-half relaxation followed by a final panic was an analyst's dream - Wigan needed to win that game.
Thomas Leuluai was embarrassed.'"
It's ludicrous (and libellous) to suggest that the match was fixed by the RFL. Who are you actually saying is complicit? Nigel Woods, the referee and his assistants, the match commissioner and the entire disciplinary committee?
The decision was wrong because Hicks is a crap referee not because he's bent.
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| I didn't hear all this crap ref talk two weeks ago, then I suppose they were the salt of the earth
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| Quote ="WormInHand"It's not a joke, that's the problem - its big money. Tonight was pre-meditated by the RFL without a doubt in my opinion. You could see it in the behaviour of Hicks in both halves - the second-half relaxation followed by a final panic was an analyst's dream - Wigan needed to win that game.
Thomas Leuluai was embarrassed.'"
Ha, are you Hull fans this paranoid in everyday life, or just when it comes to rugby league?
Watts had his elbow slightly raised, which made contact and knocked McClorrum out, that description is clearly foul play.
You lost, get over it. Every time you lose it's the refs fault, just like the Leeds game the week before. It's very boring and childish.
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| Quote ="DABHAND"Micky Mac had been dishing it out before the sending off,strange how things turn out sometimes'"
Micky Mac is always dishing it out choose who they play, the only complaint I have with Watts is he didn't hit him hard enough.
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| Quote ="Sir Kevin Sinfield"Ha, are you Hull fans this paranoid in everyday life, or just when it comes to rugby league?
Watts had his elbow slightly raised, which made contact and knocked McClorrum out, that description is clearly foul play.
You lost, get over it. Every time you lose it's the refs fault, just like the Leeds game the week before. It's very boring and childish.'" so if watts had his knee slightly raised as mcillorum tackled him and watts hit him in the face because Macca mistimed his tackle then watts should be sent off for kneeing him in the face......get a grip
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| Bentham loaded the gun and hicks fired the bullets,Bentham messed up big style and if watts gets further punishment then the game is doomed
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| Quote ="hatty"I didn't hear all this crap ref talk two weeks ago, then I suppose they were the salt of the earth'"
No, they were seriously inept in missing the foot on the dead ball line by a wigan player in the lead up to your 2nd try
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| Quote ="hatty"I didn't hear all this crap ref talk two weeks ago, then I suppose they were the salt of the earth'"
Well they have to get something right every once in a while don't they?
Seriously though this thread is embarrassing. It was a bad call, that's it. No conspiracy, no corruption, just a case of the ref(s) seeing it different to how we did.
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| One of the things I always use as a measure in incidents like that last night is the reaction of players immediately after it's occurred. They know if foul play has taken place and they act aggressively towards the perpetrator. Watch the Wigan players, not one has a pop a Watts because they know that he didn't commit an offence.
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| From an outsider looking in, if that had been Bowden or Taylor and not Watts do you think the decision would have been different? I certainly do
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| Well im still fuming about it - The rfl is bent as that decision came from up above and not on the field
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| Quote ="Mr Incredihull"so if watts had his knee slightly raised as mcillorum tackled him and watts hit him in the face because Macca mistimed his tackle then watts should be sent off for kneeing him in the face......get a grip'"
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| Quote ="WormInHand"It's not a joke, that's the problem - its big money. Tonight was pre-meditated by the RFL without a doubt in my opinion. You could see it in the behaviour of Hicks in both halves - the second-half relaxation followed by a final panic was an analyst's dream - Wigan needed to win that game.
Thomas Leuluai was embarrassed.'"
So I suppose Hull were in on it, hence why Sneyd threw an intercept, Shaul knocked on in the dying minutes and Sneyd (again) put a poor tackle in on Gelling?
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