Won't do them any harm....Turget as well

Issue is more ours around sourcing a quality replacement I think.

Bobby will defo have to as he will be too old for 19s, but not good enough to play in front of any of our current front rowers.

Worse things for HTW than a year's tutelage under Cooke.

Totally agree,some won't like it but he will learn and I'd have Cooke here as attack coach.

Think Radders mentioned Ellis to prop. Do you think Crooks will stay, then? I think he's on his way out. Didn't see him on Saturday.

Not good enough or too good to bulk up?

If we can get a club to pay a fee he will be gone.

I wonder if Agar and Smith will want him to bulk up?

Agar never got Hall to bulk up.Agar must have the gift of the gab as how the hell has he ended up there

Atkins is 100kg, and 185 cm tall.
Bridge is 93 kg and 180 cm tall
Crooks is 88 kg and 190 cm tall.

They might do.

Can only see Ellis playing prop if we secure another 2nd rower, don't see the point otherwise.

Crooks is on the naughty step. Too many with poor attitudes been given an easy ride in the past.

Can they teach him to tackle though as Atkins can't tackle a salad and Bridge isn't much better

I wouldn't even wait for that, I'd have binned him off already. One good season and he thinks he's Greg Inglis.

Ellis will start next yr at 2nd row imo. Prop will be an option depending on injuries/form of props n the people pushing him n mini for back row spot. Think the prop thing radders has mentioned will more be within games next n will move to prop fully yr after

You don't like players being naughty do you

His father is making the situation worse blowing smoke up his !

Of course but then it's not your money is it?

And if he does become the next Greg Inglis, what then? You're happy that he was binned of due to his poor attitude; which is no doubt down to his advisers, who his dad is and is age.

I think he should be given a full season in the centre to see how he goes.

Quick question - do you think Crooks has the physique to make a top RL centre? Or the defensive qualities?

A top SL centre or top (world class) centre? If the latter then probably not, although he is only 21. If the former then yes and yes. He is already an above average centre in this comp even if he never improves one iota.

I disagree. He's a defensive liability currently and unless that improves he will never be better than around average overall. He's also messing the club about which I find unacceptable. He seems to think that at age 21 he knows it all and has nothing to learn. That attitude does NOT lead to greatness. Quite the opposite.

To play centre you have to be able to tackle a centre and these days centres take some tackling. You don't need size for that if you develop a good technique. I think Crooks will get there but perhaps not for us.

Timana Tahu is going to be released by the Knights if we want to continue our policy of signing really really really experienced players.

How do you know he is messing the club around? I don't claim to know different but in my eyes it seems that it is FC/Radford messing him about and I feel sorry for him.

Back the original post, so far there has been a massive upgrade player for player, I have no doubt we will improve next season, if that progress if enough though I'm not convinced.

Big questions still at hooker and if Cunningham can replace Heremia and in the centre position.

If you look at team stats, in every area we are in the top 8 apart from clean breaks and mistakes too areas that need improving massively, I'm still not convinced with have line breakers in the team.

Another centre is a must even if Crooks stays, if he does go, hopefully either Sa or Rankin will play there if he goes.