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| Quote ="R.B.A"The difference is though that a dislocated shoulder would have been suffered in the duty of representing Hull FC. We all know why he is "stressed" and it isnt upto you guys to pay for it.'"
He is an employee of the club so it's up to the club to decide on whether or not he should be paid, not me or you.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"He is an employee of the club so it's up to the club to decide on whether or not he should be paid, not me or you.'"
The reasons for his "stress" precede his contract with Hull FC. They will have clauses written into it i would imagine.
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| Quote ="R.B.A"The reasons for his "stress" precede his contract with Hull FC. They will have clauses written into it i would imagine.'" no matter what. if its stress then its a serious issue. Stress in alot of companys gets under looked as many people clame stress as an easy way out. If someone has legit stress issues then its not a nice thing to suffer. As soon as people here stress now-a-days people think they are trying to pull a fast one. Mental health and stress are very serious issues espesically among men that are not willing to admit it.
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| I just hope that he gets back to normal soon and gets back into the B&W shirt !!
The club should support him as much as they can and, hopefully, he will get back to his very best !
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| Let's hope he gets thing sorted and gets back on the field for us. I do hope that the club support him but if there's no realistic potential for him to come back then they may need to make some tough decisions
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| Good on the club for supporting him and hopefully Gleeson can use his time away to sort his problems out.
His contribution to Hull was immediately evident and we need him back as soon as is practically possible.
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| Quote ="R.B.A"The difference is though that a dislocated shoulder would have been suffered in the duty of representing Hull FC. We all know why he is "stressed" and it isnt upto you guys to pay for it.'"
We dont know why he is stressed...just assuming you know!!
Glad the club is sticking by him hope he gets sorted soon
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| Best wishes to him and I hope he gets the treatment he needs. Come on Martin your club needs you!
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| Having suffered from stress related to a personal situation outside work in my younger years, I was really ill and was rather pleased that my employer honoured his moral obligations to support me and paid me whilst I recovered. Without that support and the stability it provided and the confidence it engendered I would have been worse. I hope I repayed their loyalty to me in later years.
We don't 'know' why Gleeson is stressed and its pretty pathetic to pre judge that situation, its also sad to see that some seem to be almost dissapointed that the ridiculous rumours that were circulating are not true. Some people who have never suffered it see it as 'a none condition' or even a sign of weakness but for me Mental illness, stress depression etc are serious conditions and I for one wish Martin well and hope that we see him back in the centre soon, he certainly looked good when he was out there for us! Good Luck Martin!
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| i hope we see Martin back soon, i`ve seen at first hand the effect stress has had on one of my close relatives and it is a serious illness, lets hope he gets all the medical help and support he needs to get through this.
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| Best wishes to Martin Gleeson. Hope you feel better soon.
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| Quote ="R.B.A"The reasons for his "stress" precede his contract with Hull FC. They will have clauses written into it i would imagine.'"
Any particular reason why you've used quote marks around the word stress?
Think carefully before answering...
Also wondering when Gleeson and/or the club provided you with full details of his condition and the cause.
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| Stress has effects on the body and mental health of people who are suffering from it.
The last thing someone who is stresed needs is for their employer to turn around and dump them.
So the club are doing the right thing. Well done
I hope Martin all the best no matter what happens.
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| Quote ="R.B.A":3ckinp7jThe difference is though that a dislocated shoulder would have been suffered in the duty of representing Hull FC. :3ckinp7jWe all know why he is "stressed" and it isnt upto you guys to pay for it:3ckinp7j.'" :3ckinp7j
FFS!! And your a forum moderator????
Did you not read
Quote ="Roland_R:3ckinp7jPlease note Paul's comment on anything that is not FACT, the user will be banned permanently
Would love to know these FACT you reckon we all know.
I couldn't give a monkies for the reasons behind his illness, but having been close to people who have had stress related issues you realise the term stress is not an appropriate descrition. Its not that long ago it used to be termed a nervous breakdown.
For Martin and his family, I hope he manages to over come this sooner rather than later.
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| Quote ="R.B.A"The reasons for his "stress" precede his contract with Hull FC. They will have clauses written into it i would imagine.'"
You have no evidence whatsoever as to why Martin is stressed and you should be very careful with the insinuations you are making. I am sure Hull do have clauses in his contract, they alluded to this when he signed. However suffering with stress won't be one of them. The guy is ill and the club are supporting him and the fans for the moment seem to be behind that.
Suffering from stress is not a wrong doing on his part so he will rightly still be paid and be supported until he is ready to return or not whichever the case may be.
That post was dangerously close to landing you a ban, moderator or not. If you can not post on this thread within the rules then i'd suggest not to bother.
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| I for one wish him a very speedy recovery i`ve seen stress related illnesses first hand and i know its not a thing people want
Hope to see him back in a black and white shirt sooner rather than later
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| Some great sentiments here but Just for the benifit of those who still wish to think the worst, the Daily Mail today states,
'Whilst the Mail cannot disclose the full details of the illness it has nothing to do with alcohol or failing a drugs test. Gleeson is not suffering any sort of injury He has not been in a fight or breached his contract with Hull Fc'
'in an effort to protect Gleesons Privacy the club have contacted the RL to enlist their help'
'To their credit the club wil not discuss the situation with anyone'
Mods this is an exact quote and is in the publc domain thanks to James Smailes.
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| Id be stressed if i made the mistake that cost us the derby game.
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| I have had to lock this temporarily at the requesat of Admin. They currently feel there is nothing more to be said regarding Martin but I have asked them if this can be re-opened.
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| Admin have given us the ok to keep this open, same rules as before.
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| I have just finished studying a sports psychology course at University, and stress, anxiety are more common than people can imagine. Every player, employee will be subject to stress or anxiety at some point to varying degrees throughout their careers. Sadly many will receive no expert help or guidance through psychological interventions by educational sports psychologists or in severe cases by clinical sports psychologists.
I have no idea what lengths the RFL, our club, or any club in fact go to help players, but it appears they are actually making an efffort to help Martin. I hope they will help him to the maximum and seek expert help to fascilitate his recovery.
I applaud the club ( and I haven't been doing that much recently ) for helping Martin, and beg them to continue helping him, and all our players to the maximum.
Get Well Martin
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| Quote ="mikegreen673"I have just finished studying a sports psychology course at University, and stress, anxiety are more common than people can imagine. Every player, employee will be subject to stress or anxiety at some point to varying degrees throughout their careers. Sadly many will receive no expert help or guidance through psychological interventions by educational sports psychologists or in severe cases by clinical sports psychologists.
I have no idea what lengths the RFL, our club, or any club in fact go to help players, but it appears they are actually making an efffort to help Martin. I hope they will help him to the maximum and seek expert help to fascilitate his recovery.
I applaud the club ( and I haven't been doing that much recently ) for helping Martin, and beg them to continue helping him, and all our players to the maximum.
Get Well Martin'"
stress isn't an issue for a sports psychologist, hopefully he is receiving counselling and psycotherapy, I sincerely hope he is getting whatever he feels he needs.
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| Quote ="The Dentist Wilf"Some great sentiments here but Just for the benifit of those who still wish to think the worst, the Daily Mail today states,
'Whilst the Mail cannot disclose the full details of the illness it has nothing to do with alcohol or failing a drugs test. Gleeson is not suffering any sort of injury He has not been in a fight or breached his contract with Hull Fc'
'in an effort to protect Gleesons Privacy the club have contacted the RL to enlist their help'
'To their credit the club wil not discuss the situation with anyone'
Mods this is an exact quote and is in the publc domain thanks to James Smailes.'"
well posted wilf ,this is nothing FC did not know about when they signed martin ,and are dealing with it in a professional manner ,the same as other clubs should have done ,like you say best of luck martin hope to see you back soon
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| Very well done to the Hull club for supporting him through this.
I don't know the bloke but wish him all the best and hope to see him back in the black and white as soon as he is able.
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| Stress IS an issue for a sports psychologist. Stress can be detrimental to performance, and a sports psychologist could be used in order to improve performance by helping the player in learning to deal with stress and anxiety that debilitates perfromance. Obviously you know better so maybe i should have studied in your university instead.
Educational sports psychologists address stressors to the athlete such as performance worries, self-doubt, [utraumatic experiences outside of sport[/u, injury etc, etc. That would include stress and anxiety experienced due to those stressors which educational sports psychologists would look to rectify. However, if the eduacational sports psychologist believed the condition was due to severe emotional disorders ( such as suicidal tendancies, eating disorders, substance abuse etc ) they would refer the athlete to a clinical sports psychologist. I have taken this information from my course book( Foundations of sport and exercise psychology, by Weinberg and Gould, 2007) so I will believe their years of study research knowledge etc rather than your misguided comment. Of course if you'd like to point me in the direction where you obtain your information I will happily read it and pass it on to Weinberg and Gould so they can update their information and credit you with the discovery.
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