I'm not looking for a dark clouds, that was the first time i've seen us win down there since they played at the Valley and I was more than happy. My point is two fold, one I don't think Nicklas can be held in that high a regard if he still can't get half a game in circumstances like that. Two, teams like Saints/Leeds/Wigan wouldnt even contemplate playing 2 non half backs together, they would play the reserve player in that position.

The comments about resting forwards is irrelevant to my post. Hull FC's problem is half back and won't be addressed (in my opinion) by decisions, or non-decisions as the case was here, like that by our coach.

Have to say I would have taken Fitz off and moved Washy to LF and given Nicklas a run in the halfs. If it wasn't working you can always change it back.

Maybe if the game was in the bag with 20 minutes Agar would have brought Nicklas on but anything can happen in Rugby League. Not saying that Quins could come back and win the game but as someone said earlier Quins were never going to give and let's say they came out and got to within one score of Hull would certain fans see it as an oppurtunity to lay into an 18 year old and already write him off as being not good enough ? It's good to see Reece Lyne given another chance and it sounds like he had a solid game and was probably better for the experience he had gained playing against Salford. After the Salford game I was disappointed with some of the critisism he recieved, for God's sake he is only 17 yet he is prepared to carry the ball in to tackles in one of the most physical sports on the planet. Don't think the people who were critisising him would be up for that.

I agree

I agree with Fitz we should have played him for the 1st 10, and with the game still been 30-0 he should have been given a breather and given Nicklaus a chance

And thats why you are happy with second place mediocrity. Look at Udders, 36 nill at HT, and Wakey with Kear, a better coach than BM, collapse and let almost 60 in.

The simple fact is there are 10 teams in SL who would have nailed 60 on sat. Thats why we are 400 points behind the team next to us

Had we had our two creative players onthe pitch...we may well have nailed 60.
Surely your knowledge of rugby allows you to understand the h/back create the tries, and there is no-one better in the business than Longy.

we got 30 easy enough without.......

But Quins were hardly going to come out the 2nd half (after their coach no doubt spanked them)..and not improve, they put in a game for 30 mins and we hit back for the last 10...

Like we did against Wigan the previous week!!!

Agree.....however no Fitz, O'Meley or Tickle, and if I be honest I thought the ref killed us in the first 20 and then their heads went down...

But I agree a poor performance, the good news is we bounced back.

Ooooh yes, i agree, Quins refused to be nilled at home just like we have 2 times in the last year

We have only being nilled 1.....it is KR who have been nilled 2.

Surely your rugby knowledge allows you to read my post, i said in the last year. Udders did us in 2009

Is Long worth 400 points in the games hes missed?

Well I remember in 1987, 1994, 2007. 2008....



Getting a bit desperate to slag the club if you are resorting to last season as well now....Unbelievable!!

Progress eh?

I just am really vexxed we have been nilled at home. Not even a drop goal to trouble the scoreboard

Oh, and i'm bothered about my club, not about Rovers

Bit desperate trying to slag another club resorting to their own short comings.

We are all upset we were nilled at home...however last season is gone and a lot of players with it.....I agree about the drop goal but A. who was on the pitch to try it and B.when did the opportunity arise.
I for one am sure when we next meet Wiagn this season (which i am sure we will)..a lot of wrongs will be put right, and if we have our full squad to pick from (barring Whiting), I am convinced we will give them a game.

Just imagine, for one moment, the posts on here if we'd lost 1:40. I think even I'd have posted something about that (once I'd stopped p155ing myself that is).

You're living in dreamland if you think Agar can change things for the better if we play Wigan again. Wigan have handed us our backsides twice by playing professional , constructive intelligent and supportive rugby. Now compare that to the 2 plus seasons of 5 drives and a kick dross that Agar has implemented.

Not sure why I bother......

So Saturdays convincing win, the derby, the Saints game all consisted of 5 drives and a kick



I would choose my (so called dream world) any day of the week, to that pessimistic dark place you appear to be, Agar could win the GF and posters like you will still be convinced he is pants.......

I don't know why you bother either. It's like you saying the singing on saturday that was objected to was a non event. Was the singing by the Hull city fans when they played QPR and chanted ' a town full of bombers' a non event as well?

If you think Agar and the team are so good, tell me something innovative that Agar has implemented on the pitch attacking wise, ie set moves etc.

No I never said that....after reading the events/explanation posted by the people involved, I said it was a non event ( in the sense it did not warrant 5 pages on a forum board!!)...

The rest of your post.....

and your response to the rest of my question show you don't have a clue.

Last year in the 4N I watched what was held to be one of the best RL matches in history. The match was between New Zealand and Australia and for almost the entire duration, the game was 5 drives and a kick against very solid defences. I like to think that coaches' plans depend greatly on their opposition. Wigan knew what was in front of them at the KC and played a different game: FC didn't have the players on the park to do anything but. The game plan was different against Quins because Hull had some key players back which gave them more options in the halves and Quins aren't Wigan. By the way, did you think that Hull played 5 drives and a kick against the Quins?