maybe coming into the 2nd row he is! Prop he is unproven.

Not having a dig but how have you worked that out?

You obviously did not read the first post of this thread by Berro's best mate.

Berrigan 13 Tests caps, 13 State of Origin games

Fitzgibbon 19 Test caps, 11 SoO games

O'Meley 15 Test caps, 10 SoO games

(1) Washbrook.
(2) Whiting

I would doubt very much that it will be Radford. I recon Agar has only used him there to compensate a very weak pack. We won't need him or any other forward there next season.

Im wondering if there are more international caps in the Leeds pack?

There could well be. But it's one thing getting and England/GB cap and another getting a kangaroos cap, would you agree?

Probably, with Buderus and Peacock.

State of Origin are seen as the ultimate in RL down under though.

regardless of wether he plays in the front or back row. For me he'd be on the bench and I wouldn't say he is unproven at prop.

As it stands:

Tansey 0
Calderwood 9
Briscoe 0 (but in elite squad)
Yeaman 5
Raynor 3
Horne 15
Long 20
O'Meley 15
Berrigan 13
Lauaki 6
Fitzgibbon 19
Manu 6
Washbrook 0

111 international appearances - not too shabby.

Well with all that experience in the pack Im assuming alot may believe you will have the strongest set of forwards in the league next season?

Hasn't Thorman got a cap as well?

You forgot Thorman

well, i worked it out how many of there pack have played in a nrl grand final and how many kangaroo caps they have..as far as im aware, bedurus has 1 gf appearance but 24 australia appearances...kylie lualui hasnt splayed for australia as far as im aware.. cant think of any others that play for leed who are australian other than scott donald..

Who knows?

The first thing is to have them all fit. I'm wary of naming a first choice pack for next year due to our injury record of late.

I'm certainly far happier with the [ipotential[/i pack for next year compared to this year's.

i'll reserve judgement, but you cant argue with the names on paper...

that is a strong pack, and as stevo would say "thats without a doubt"

On paper its a strong looking pack.

indeed, o'meley or dowes? fitzgibbon or radford? think that puts it to bed for me...

I see in this week's League Express the highly respected Australian journalist Malcolm Andrews says of Craig Fitzgibbon (who scored all of the Roosters 12 points in their loss last weekend):

On paper it's the best pack in SL. 3 kangaroos and a NZ international. Unfortunately they'll be coached by a complete fukwit so we know how it will turn out

as ive said i'll reserve judgement on agar and our new players...but with his signings in place, if we fail to deliver next season agar will have to fall on his sword...

I agree, can say what you want about Agar but he'll have left the team in better shape then he received it if he does leave.

Each to their own. I've seen enough to show me he isn't up to it on whichever way you look at it

i'm begining to have a problem with Jon sharp been involved as i can't see any positives he has brought to the club as of yet.

well according to graeme horne & hdm, agar takes control of attack whilst sharp takes responsibility for defenc...in my opinion our defence aint bad but our attack is dire at best