7 out of their attacking line were in front of the kicker, so was hardly dubious

Why are we expecting to go from garbage last week to world class this week?? it would never happen - id take a win and an improvement in confidence goin into next weeks game

Couldn't make it tonight but heard the 2nd half. Nick Pinkney, Doc, Gollum and DDD said we were poor. Agar and Rule thought we did well. God help us!!!!

so you're admitting that there was a positive then??

we werent expecting 'world class' this week, but clinging on against a team that have conceded 447 points already this season does not instill confidence.

i had kcfm on, the host on there said we played alright

Please tell me that's a joke. Surely the bloke is not so clueless he thinks that receiving the ball stood still only a couple of yards back from the PTB is a sound tactic?

And scored 2 tries against the 2nd worst defence in SL.



Jeez, you've actually convinced me more than Jake that we must have been poor.

see the rest of my post for the reasons for that!

I'm sure he made some comment about it and sort of excused it in that "we were trying to play some football". Back to Plan A at training this week, then.

Yeh I heard him say that to - I'm betting his last name is Rule or Agar.

Buck stops with the coach yet again then...same problem week in, week out yet he persists with the two at half back....mix it up and change it around!

no the host on kcfm is HullFC's media officer!

he is hardly going to come out with 'it was completely pathetic' whatever the result!

Horne played better tonight IMO

but really we need to go with Berrigan at no7, with Lee and Houghton rotating at hooker....people have suggested this for weeks and yet it still hasn't happened.

Doesn't negate a good defensive stint but it is killing us in attack. Salford scored their first try directly off 3 quick ptbs in a row.

Agar was right we were miles too deep all the dummy runners had long since lost their effectiveness by the time Tony had got the wrap around 20 yards behind the play.

TBH he was embarrassing tonight, particularly during the after match phone-in. His utter desperation to paint the game as a major improvement and big turning point bordered on the pathetic as caller after caller shot him down.

Just as bad as those that always look for the worst, only on live radio.

Rich Horne did well for the try but nothing else. Still much better than Thorman who should not qualify for a Hull shirt.

It is quite clear that there is no gameplan whatsoever. It was 80 minutes of boring rubbish, again. Problem is it's going to be the same for the remainder of the season, until Agar is given the chop there will be no change to the inept, tactically devoid pants that is served up as entertainment.

Yeah, I did. I'm just more convinced by that stat to follow Jake's thinking. The negatives by far outweigh the slight positive of making a few yards against a fellow cack side.

I don't know how he keeps managing it, but he keeps sounding more and more of an idiot. He's got a worse case of foot-in-mouth syndrome than James from The Apprentice!

Positive ....

We're a game closer to the end of the season. Now that far outweighs anything.

There were long periods of poor play again however it was individual errors which cost us a greater winning margin. Graeme Horne should have given Raynor a walk in and Broughton's shambolic defensive positioning gifted them a try. 2 players not good enough for a team with top 4 aspirations. Top players don't make those errors.

fair enough, but my point is that if we'd of had someone who knew what they was doing when we got there it would of been 44-12 instead of 14-12. No one would then be saying it was garbage.

yes if we'd had proper tactics set out from a proper coach, and players with some creative ideas we'd have walked it

but it wasn't 44-12, it was 14-12 and it was garbage

I wouldn't be over confident on winning that game either TBH. I took my Wife and kids to see them play Wigan last week ,(my eldest likes the Pie eaters for some strange reason), and the Crusaders played pretty well, and Wigan were nowhere near as bad as we have been for most games this season.

Graeme horne was one of our (if not the) best player tonight