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| Quote ="simon_tem"What was Pryce sin binned for? Was it dissent? This was another thing that annoyed me with Bentham last night; Henderson was often in the referees face and then not long after we get marched 10 yards and then Pryce sin binned.
Is there any doubt over the legitimacy of Talanoa's challenge on Escare? My view was a bit obscured but it almost looked like he slid in, feet first.'"
I think there is, they replayed it on Cats channel in slow motion. Would be a disaster if he copped a ban mind with Shaul, Lineham, Ellis, Green, Westerman all doubts and Whiting and Sa definitely out.
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"Good summary. In regards to the first 20 mins we were a little bit hesitant but =#0000BFit surprises me how many people think that a SL side (some pundits' top 4 choice) will roll over that early in a game and be easy to score against. They were well drilled on their goal line defence and deserve credit for that. The work done in the first 20 went a long way to ensuring we were able to win the game fairly easily in the end.'"
I don't think anyone expects a SL team to be easy to score against, but in a similar vein I don't expect a SL side to have 18 consecutive tackles from 40 yards and come away pointless. Yes, some of the Catalan defence was good and deserved credit, but some poor and predictable attacking play from us also contributed.
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| Shall is fit to play just been kept out last two matches by Rankin
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"but in a similar vein I don't expect a SL side to have 18 consecutive tackles from 40 yards and come away pointless.'"
Probably happens fairly often. I'm not claiming we're a good attacking side at all but at the start of games when players are fresher it's not that unusual.
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| Quote ="Punos"Shall is fit to play just been kept out last two matches by Rankin'"
Don't you mean by Yeaman?
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"I don't think anyone expects a SL team to be easy to score against, but in a similar vein I don't expect a SL side to have 18 consecutive tackles from 40 yards and come away pointless. Yes, some of the Catalan defence was good and deserved credit, but some poor and predictable attacking play from us also contributed.'"
A team that had given the 2nd half display Catalan did last week are bound to be putting extra effort in.
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| Quote ="*1865*"A team that had given the 2nd half display Catalan did last week are bound to be putting extra effort in.'"
I dont think it was the extra effort in defence by Catalans in the first 20 mins but more a poor Hull attack.
At no point did the Catalans defence become stretched or look desperate they handled a pretty poor Hull attack comfortably. We attacked like a team with no confidence for the first 20 mins. Also the Yeaman scoot from dummy half is only acceptable in our own 20 clearing the lines when under pressure imo it offers nothing other then a wasted tackle and breather for the opposition if done in their half of the pitch!
The 2nd and 3rd tries gave Hull the attacking confidence and you could visibly see the players suddenly want the ball more with Jordan Rankin starting looking like the full back we knew he could be.
Thought Rankin was very good linking into the attack and Lineham will hope he stays at fullback for the service. Thompson is really impressive with his pace and aggression in the middle and I like how Pryce controls the game in the middle.
Would still be tempted to find a place for Shaul on the wing in a similar vien to Russell at Warry and move Talanoa to centre or even Curtis Naughton if Talanoa gets a ban.
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| What grade ban would it be? (if it is deemed one), don't think talinoa has been banned before whilst in a black n white shirt so could use egp
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| Quote ="knocker norton"I dont think it was the extra effort in defence by Catalans in the first 20 mins but more a poor Hull attack.
At no point did the Catalans defence become stretched or look desperate they handled a pretty poor Hull attack comfortably. We attacked like a team with no confidence for the first 20 mins. Also the Yeaman scoot from dummy half is only acceptable in our own 20 clearing the lines when under pressure imo it offers nothing other then a wasted tackle and breather for the opposition if done in their half of the pitch!
The 2nd and 3rd tries gave Hull the attacking confidence and you could visibly see the players suddenly want the ball more with Jordan Rankin starting looking like the full back we knew he could be.
Thought Rankin was very good linking into the attack and Lineham will hope he stays at fullback for the service. Thompson is really impressive with his pace and aggression in the middle and I like how Pryce controls the game in the middle.
Would still be tempted to find a place for Shaul on the wing in a similar vien to Russell at Warry and move Talanoa to centre or even Curtis Naughton if Talanoa gets a ban.'"
no point if we have Lancaster and lineham is fit.
We really need to find a place for Rankin.Time To Drop Yeaman and give Rankin a go at centre or persevere with Rankin off the bench to interchange with Danny Houghton.
You can clearly see what an injection of pace to the attack does when Rankin comes into the line and Michaels showed it too as he had a little more ball to attack..
Yeaman must be the slowest centre in Super League.he even makes Talanoa look fast.We need a pacey attacking threat on both sides of the field but when he gets the ball the attack just stops.
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| Quote ="knocker norton"I dont think it was the extra effort in defence by Catalans in the first 20 mins but more a poor Hull attack.
At no point did the Catalans defence become stretched or look desperate they handled a pretty poor Hull attack comfortably. We attacked like a team with no confidence for the first 20 mins. Also the Yeaman scoot from dummy half is only acceptable in our own 20 clearing the lines when under pressure imo it offers nothing other then a wasted tackle and breather for the opposition if done in their half of the pitch!
The 2nd and 3rd tries gave Hull the attacking confidence and you could visibly see the players suddenly want the ball more with Jordan Rankin starting looking like the full back we knew he could be.
Thought Rankin was very good linking into the attack and Lineham will hope he stays at fullback for the service. Thompson is really impressive with his pace and aggression in the middle and I like how Pryce controls the game in the middle.
Would still be tempted to find a place for Shaul on the wing in a similar vien to Russell at Warry and move Talanoa to centre or even Curtis Naughton if Talanoa gets a ban.'"
It all depends on which way you want to see it, I suppose.
I'm not sure Shaul can play on the wing, if that wing became open I'd want Lancaster there personally. I think it's just a case of Rankin or Shaul, not and.
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| Quote ="bonaire"Time To Drop Yeaman and give Rankin a go at centre
You can clearly see what an injection of pace to the attack does when Rankin comes into the line.'"
He can't 'come into the line' if he's at centre, can he?
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| Quote ="*1865*"He can't 'come into the line' if he's at centre, can he?'"
Thats the problem. Rankin has great hands and pace - ideal for full back.
Shaul has great pace and is elusive - ideal for full back.
Both should play.
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| Shaul got niggling ankle injury, hes not fit
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| Quote ="knocker norton"Thats the problem. Rankin has great hands and pace - ideal for full back.
Shaul has great pace and is elusive - ideal for full back.
Both should play.'"
Maybe Radford will revolutionise the sport and play with two fullbacks and 1 centre.
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| Quote ="Mr. Zucchini Head"Maybe Radford will revolutionise the sport and play with two fullbacks and 1 centre.'"
As opposed to what now???
Are we playing with 2 centres?
All we want are players that can attack and defend whatever the shirt number.
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| Henderson was tugging at the referee's sleeve all game. God knows why the dissent card wasn't shown when he threw the ball away and started shouting at Bentham.
Prycey spent more time prone on the deck than any other player but to his eternal credit, kept getting up and giving it back. His best game for me in the face of some bad niggling play from his former colleagues.
Still some dumb rugby being played and not enough patience sometimes, but all in all, considering we lost the captain for a full half, pretty good to grind that out.
Michaels pace to attempt to get Sneyds kick was incredible in the second half. He could be a real crowd-pleaser if he gets the ball.
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| Quote ="knocker norton"As opposed to what now???
Are we playing with 2 centres?
All we want are players that can attack and defend whatever the shirt number.'"
I thought we were playing with one centre and a hat stand.
Tbf to Yeaman it sounds like he played better last night so let's hope it continues.
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| Quote ="JEAN CAPDOUZE"Catalans will play without Todd Carney (broken ribs) and Benjamin Pomeroy (suspended). But Catalans should still win.'"
Comme l'intérêt détestez-vous juste la Coque FC ou êtes vous toujours smarting de votre quart de l'échec final en 2013 ?
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| Quote ="Mr. Zucchini Head"I thought we were playing with one centre and a hat stand.
Tbf to Yeaman it sounds like he played better last night so let's hope it continues.'"
If that was one of Yeaman's better performances then I'd hate to see a poor one. He was average in defence and completely innefective in attack. Could have put a shirt on a tailors dummy and had much the same impact on the game.
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| Quote ="*1865*"He can't 'come into the line' if he's at centre, can he?'"
You are a nit picker
He created the tries for Talanoa and Lineham from a centre position.He should have scored a second try himself late in the game but tried to pass to Talanoa instead of crashing over the line.The point is he is fast and elusive and that's what we need.
If he is used as a centre and utilises his pace and footwork he will score tries and create a lot more for his wing partner.
Don't tell me he cant tackle because he can.
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| Quote ="Kosh"If that was one of Yeaman's better performances then I'd hate to see a poor one. He was average in defence and completely innefective in attack. Could have put a shirt on a tailors dummy and had much the same impact on the game.'"
Fair enough. I'd read a couple of more positive comments and his stats looked ok (made plenty of yards).
We really need to do something about it though. Talanoa isn't the perfect winger, but he is among the better ones in this league imo. He will score bags of tries if he has a centre who will create for him.
I don't know if Rankin has played there before, but his footwork and pace seem made for it. Personally I think he offers more than Shaul overall, but I would like both in the team somewhere.
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| I have one of those asking for Yeaman to be dropped, but didn't have a bad game on Friday, he put in a few very important tackles and ran the ball back strongly as he always does.
If green, Ellis and Westy are out, I'd have him on the bench to cover the backrow.
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| Quote ="knocker norton"I dont think it was the extra effort in defence by Catalans in the first 20 mins but more a poor Hull attack.
At no point did the Catalans defence become stretched or look desperate they handled a pretty poor Hull attack comfortably. We attacked like a team with no confidence for the first 20 mins. Also the Yeaman scoot from dummy half is only acceptable in our own 20 clearing the lines when under pressure imo it offers nothing other then a wasted tackle and breather for the opposition if done in their half of the pitch!
The 2nd and 3rd tries gave Hull the attacking confidence and you could visibly see the players suddenly want the ball more with Jordan Rankin starting looking like the full back we knew he could be.
Thought Rankin was very good linking into the attack and Lineham will hope he stays at fullback for the service. Thompson is really impressive with his pace and aggression in the middle and I like how Pryce controls the game in the middle.
Would still be tempted to find a place for Shaul on the wing in a similar vien to Russell at Warry and move Talanoa to centre or even Curtis Naughton if Talanoa gets a ban.'"
That's how I saw it. It wasn't particularly impressive defensive efforts from Catalan, it was pretty standard stuff to swallow up a naff attack. Our only idea for half an hour was to chip over the top if barging at the line failed (I don't know why people are saying 20 minutes either, we were still poor after the opening try, which was a gift. As you rightly say, it wasn't until the Rankin & Michaels tries that we actually settled down & started to play rugby).
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| Quote ="Diablo1967"Henderson was tugging at the referee's sleeve all game. God knows why the dissent card wasn't shown when he threw the ball away and started shouting at Bentham.'"
To be slightly fair to Henderson on that single occasion, he was dead right. Awful call from Bentham, it went backwards and Henderson knew it.
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