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| Talking of Kear, and playoffs, remember last game of the season where we lost to Warrington, and the following game, away at Warrington,(with Andrew Johns) we gave them a good hiding. Agar had his chance last season with Leeds in the cup, after getting stuffed at Headingley. what was the result, we got stuffed again. The guy simply doesn't have the skills to define a gameplan to neutralise the oppositions strengths. Look at them vs Rovers at cardiff first game. He openly admitted he'd been watching the video of how rovers play and their so called attacking plays, and what was the result once Rovers got decent ball, we got stuffed.
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| Quote ="Kosh"I agree, but some of what we're seeing on the pitch indicates problems with fundamental aspects of our game that any decent coach should be able to address.'" And International players should be able to catch
a ball ..the chances we had but didn't take ..Wakey had 2 and took them
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| Quote ="ICECREAMMAN"was a small minority again Kosh , i am sure they all felt it helps the club enormously tho
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I've been reading this thread and have to admire you for sticking to your guns on this subject, even through some considerable stick. But I have to say about the reaction of the crowd at the end of Friday's game, I haven't heard anything like that in all my 30+ years of supporting the club. There's no way of arguing about that I'm afraid.
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| Quote ="ICECREAMMAN"Its a Hull thing.. that desperate need to blame someone.... remember the past scapegoats
Rich is a decent fella, who puts in 6 days a week to help his team, if he isnt at training he is watching VT and so on and so forth, I can tell you one thing that is for sure, Rich will never walk of his own accord because he is a fighter and all this hatred towards him will simply make him work harder to prove you all wrong !!
which incidentally i think he will, there are a few changes to the team again at the end of this term which will help again , as always its a build on build situation...
but for those keyboard warriors who think he is an empty head, go along to a training session and watch... or better still tell him to his face because i can guarantee he will not flare up but will talk to you for as long as it takes to show you he is trying very hard indeed...
but hating the man himself is ridiculous because how can you "hate" someone you dont even know???'"
i dont hate mr agar at all btw but he could work 24 hours a day seven days a week but that does not make him a head coach worthy of our great club.only results on the pitch can do that .
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| Quote ="ICECREAMMAN"agreed and needing somewhere to vent their upset, which i understand also..
Thankfully the faithful who have seen much worse than this are usually a bit more savvy and can see with all the talent we have in the squad its just a matter of time till someone gets a real tubbing by FC'"
will that be before or after our cup/playoff exit ?.the team is capable i have no doubt ( fan since 7icon_cool.gif but in the words of wesley snipes(the sun even shines on a dogs ass one day) mr agars day in the sun has gone 2008 is as good as it gets for him
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| Quote ="Zaphod"The longer he stays, the more people will drift away, possibly never to return.
Everyone has made their mind up about Agar now and the odd win like Crusaders or the odd decent performance like Wigan is not going to change anyones opinion.
The club is supposed to be run as a business so lets have the correct business decision as soon as possible.
Relieve Agar of his duties, NOW.'"
I've already drifted off tbh. I used to organise my weekend social life around rugby now it's the other way round. If I get a better offer, I'm gone. I have more entertaining things to spend £22 on if I'm honest. As a result I haven't been yet this season. Normally by now the club would have had about £80 of me in gate reciepts and perhaps a shirt but so far this season they've had not a single penny.
The danger is at the moment I'm not missing it at all and I could easily get used to not going regularly anymore.
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| Yesterday: Quote ="ICECREAMMAN"well yesterday he had a very very long meeting and came out of it a very positive man again when [uto be honest i thought he would jib the job[/u '"
Today: Quote ="ICECREAMMAN" [uI can tell you one thing that is for sure, Rich will never walk of his own accord[/u because he is a fighter and all this hatred towards him will simply make him work harder to prove you all wrong !! '"
I don't know how people can take this clown seriously.
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| Quote ="garry brindley"Yesterday: Today: I don't know why people take this clown seriously.'"
I don't think anyone does' ..do they.
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| Quote ="painterman"Dont patronise me pal.At least i know the the so called rugby your mate is serving up is starting to drain the enthusiasm out of a majority of FC fans.'"
hear hear
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| Quote ="ICECREAMMAN"thing is i didnt say anywhere we would put 50 on oldham, i doubt we will as this is Oldhams cup final to them however my point is we are due a good win and when it comes we will be bwtter fo for it regardless of who its against!!!
In reality we havent been bummed by anyone anyway yet have we??'"
what about the leeds second team was it 6 they had missing n still made us look poor
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| Quote ="garry brindley"Yesterday: Today: I don't know how people can take this clown seriously.'"
Agar, Rule or Mr Whippy?
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| Quote ="ICECREAMMAN"Yes a good win can be a change of fortune and mind set to any team and regularly happens, and yes i agree the wakey result was a dog, however as both salford and wakey proved this weekend gone, no one is a push over anymore and thats what many on here do not understand, whilst they may think that FC have a right to beat everyone and buy all the best players on the globe the facts are .. they havent !!!
we had the op to score umpteen trys against waket and bombed em all, thats what i am saying execution was a shambles... but the openings created was there for all to see'"
i disagree we are the pushovers now ask rovers leeds hudds wigan wakey and many more bfore the season ends the way we are playing
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| Quote ="Wellsy13"Tough sh*t.
What right do the players have to complain if he goes? Absolutely none. If they don't want him to go, and think that he's a good coach, they should pull their fingers out of their *rses and get playing better!
If he gets sacked despite them thinking he's a good coach, it's their own God damn fault.
Not one player in a team with the calibre of talent we have at Hull and the resources we have, has a right to complain if we're this poor. If they want to go with him, they can do.'"
Have on good authority that Danny Houghton thinks he should stay and blames the players for friday, and he to me has been one of the few that have put the effort in.
I think its unrest between players that is the problem as they aint playing for each other.
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| Quote ="justafan"Have on good authority that Danny Houghton thinks he should stay and blames the players for friday, and he to me has been one of the few that have put the effort in.
I think its unrest between players that is the problem as they aint playing for each other.'"
Do you think it will be a LONG job fixing it?
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| Quote ="justafan"Have on good authority that Danny Houghton thinks he should stay and blames the players for friday, and he to me has been one of the few that have put the effort in.
I think its unrest between players that is the problem as they aint playing for each other.'"
And part of the coaches job is not to stamp on the unrest between players then?
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| Quote ="Standee"Do you think it will be a LONG job fixing it?'"
yes or there might be a SHARP response!
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| Quote ="justafan"yes or there might be a SHARP response!'"
Its a shame some people are OBSTinate!
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| Quote ="World of Redboy"And part of the coaches job is not to stamp on the unrest between players then?'"
Yes i agree he should be able to sort out the players but if on the pitch they get fed up with a player or players making errors when they are putting in the effort, then i can see why they give up and dont put the effort in. Like my job i always try to do my best and pick up the slack from others every now and then but when they do it all the time it gets to be a joke and i let them know!
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| Quote ="justafan"yes or there might be a SHARP response!'"
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| Quote ="Standee"Its a shame some people are OBSTinate!'"
I do have a MOAn every now and again about Mr Agar but as MR Mc Rea said ther is a problem at the club.
I dont have the answers but wish i did!
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| Quote ="Jack Frost"Agar might resign, now that would be a NOBLE gesture
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TICKLEd my funny bone that one. Any way time to DOWES the flames and start WHITING my memoirs, i think i have some PHELPS tip pens somewhere.
I'll get me coat
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| Quote ="Faithful One"Exactly, what we saw on Friday was basic stuff ie catching a ball which every player knows how to do. I don't see how agar can get the blame for that. I do think we may need a change for the good of the club, but Friday wasn't down to agar.'"
obst in the running for mom every game since he came to hull with the best insight into wakefields weaknesses sat scratching his ass ,not agars fault your avin a larf mate. poor coaching decisions promotes lack of confidence that leads to mistakes on the field ,the book stops at me he said . save us more pain rich n go now
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| Quote ="hullbg"TICKLEd my funny bone that one. Any way time to DOWES the flames and start WHITING my memoirs, i think i have some PHELPS tip pens somewhere.
I'll get me coat
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| Quote ="Standee"shocking!'"
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| Quote ="justafan"Have on good authority that Danny Houghton thinks he should stay and blames the players for friday, and he to me has been one of the few that have put the effort in.
I think its unrest between players that is the problem as they aint playing for each other.'"
It is Agars team. No excuses.
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