no problem mate, maybe am getting a bit touchy because we so crap lol, anyway who knows we might turn the corner soon, on the other hand

The only turn of a corner going to happen right now is if were planning to build a new stadium down Pulman street

Prolific, isn't it?

Our "supporters" have certainly excelled themselves over the last few days, criticising anything and everything to do with the club. Not a stone has been left unturned, finding new and novel ways of sticking the boot in. The usual crowd have repeated over and over again the same anti hull fc rhetoric, and new posters have popped up to fuel the debate. Sad, really, isn't it? So much for loyalty. I'm sure AP et al are trying their very best to send the club into oblivion, just what some on here seem to want.

Precisely.

No the facts are many of us probably like yourself have been with the club through thick and thin and WILL continue to do so as i have for 50 years or so however it still does not alter the fact that the club is a mess, success is measured by success on the field and for quite some time now it has been bad to put it mildly, whilst i and approx another 16000 still keep supporting the club and hoping for changes and just some measure of hope it does not change the fact that we are a mess, void of ideas or hope and looking about as bad as I have seen,

Contrary to your claim i will forever support my beloved club and travel three hours on a plane and then three plus hours by car from Stanstead once sometimes twice a month to watch them, so my love of the club I am happy to say is lifelong, unquestionable and frikkin expensive to boot however as much as i share your hopes and dreams of what is to come right now I can only see more of the same

If I am proved wrong I am old enough and ugly enough to concede and apologise however I assume you did hear 10,000 of the 20,000 singing a song of affection towards Mr Radford at the derby , whom may I add I bear no malice but just want him to see he is in over his head...

We can bang the black and white drum all we want and defend the indefensible over and over but my calculus and eyes don't lie to me or the other thousands whom have suffered recently .. as i said once before on here if I had paid for a season pass I would definitely not do so again in the near future

Sorry if i offend you I dont mean to or want to fall out with fellow FC fans in any way and concede if you are more savvy than I am however I saw the same as you did in the derby,
THAT WASNT A DEFEAT THAT WAS A DEMOLITION , not only by points scored but mentally too

It's got nothing to do with loyalty. People just don't want to see us languishing at the foot of the table. No one has a God given right to win but given the resources available to us it's frustrating to see us playing so abjectly. I was reading the Wakefield forum earlier. Their fans are also very upset, but I think there is also a realisation that they have punched above their weight for years, and they are now in a position that reflects what they have available to them. We are the opposite, we have money, fans, facilities, a good academy, yet our on field performances are poor at best.

Personally I think there are a lot of things to be happy about at the club, and whilst I don't always agree with the way Adam does his business he has done more good than bad.

I just think we need a whole new philosophy on the playing side of things and it's obvious to me that Radford isn't the man to do it, regardless of how hard work he is working, or how badly players are letting him down.

No one apart from KR fans want to see the club die on here, not at all
but facts are facts... backing them, singing away, banging drums and playing as many flutes as you want with naked dancing girls on the crossbar isnt going to make this better in the near future
we can put Radford spin on it all we want and wallpaper the club with pretty laura ashley paper all you want but the team is clueless, leaderless and since Huddersfield have looked pointless too

The issue here is not the playing staff but the leader in charge, he isnt experienced enough simple as that .... however he is cheap

Apart from a few drama queens I'd say the criticism is justified . It's good that Pearson is staying and his investment in certain parts of the club is welcomed . That said , When performances have gone from week to week poor performances to now year in year out poor performances . Don't you think questions should be asked as to why we're still in the brown stuff with all the investment showing no improvement at all .

Where do you live? Surely paying £200 for a pass is cheaper than 13 return flights to Stansted and onward travel, don't feel too sorry. Not sure a 14 point loss is a demolition BTW. 0-28 was double the margin, but that wasn't one either really.

Clearly you didn't understand the word 'demolition' in the context of the posters chosen words..he said mentally as well as points wise. They put the cue in the rack early (& could have scored more if they'd bent their backs) whilst we flailed away pathetically, mentally the players were utterly destroyed and that played a huge part in the result.
We [iwere[/i demolished, just look at the reaction by almost every single supporter, it's a worse fall out than the Wembley loss and the loss at Hudds in the play-offs which if you remember was partly down to our illustrious leader...Karma is a biatch

oh hang on, our results are still dog turd, I'd rather we were just winning but that aint gonna happen with this faker/loser.

I live in Calabria and have done for some years now, however i come over to see family and stick my head into my company offices from time to time but always plan it to coincide with matches i want to see..

But can never guarantee anything due to business commitments hence why i do not buy a season ticket.

you see your just not reading correctly AGAIN, its not a pass cost that bothers me its a small amount but whether it would be used to its fullest is another thing because we travel Europe extensively and cannot guarantee anything .. but hey thanks for organizing my finances and your advice, however thus far my wife and I seem to have done OK thanks..
I am sat here in the Swan with family now enjoying your attempted demolition of a new member whom simply hates seeing his club in this state, but if it makes you feel better then that's your prerogative too as it is mine to post my feelings unless the rules on here changed since I joined!

Thank you , glad someone saw my point, the points were not the issue it was the mental collapse...
for the club and all supporters apart from Barista it was a demolition on all levels , the points scored against being the least of our issues

Crikey. We were well beaten without a shadow of a doubt but "demolished on all levels"? Wowzers. Good that you speak for all 15000 though. With that sort of insight no wonder you've done so well.

Totally agree. Whilst I can see that some people go a bit extreme and some are a bit repetitive, I really don't get this criticism of posters for being negative. If that's how they feel, that's how they feel. Just because you don't like it doesn't make them wrong either in their opinions or choosing to expressing them.

In which case those not on suicide watch are of course equally entitled to post without being accused of apologism, ignorance or delusion.

I think Hull will beat St Helens.

They are busted, you are desperate it's the perfect storm.

It'll be a much needed boost for you lot and maybe paint a clearer picture, you are not nearly as bad as you think you are.

But should I be right please, please spare us the world domination thing that you normally indulge in whenever you win so much as a scrum.

To a point yes , But that argument is wearing thinner by every game .

Absolutely. Incidentally, there's no need for the dig about suicide watch IMO, it's just as childish & petty as the apologism, ignorance & delusion cracks you're reaching for the moral high ground about.

Great. I'm sure you'll be calling out the "apologist" bashing point by knockersbumpmkII in equally swift fashion.

I didn't see it. I don't tend to fully read his posts much as they're long, repetitive, and usually dull. (See what I do there? There's a poster I don't particularly enjoy the posts of, so I don't read his posts. Good innit?)

But yes, if he said that there's no need for it. Feel better?

We are a very good side at the basics. Working hard getting on the front foot and getting into try scoring positions. But that's where it goes drastically wrong. With 2 creative halfbacks we'd up near the top challenging. The players are frightened to take risks, and the longer it goes on the worse it will get

He does have a good point though

I read this and the subsequent replies by Mrs b and initially wasn't going to reply but then decided I'd never read anything so cr@p as this for sometime .
If we weren't so poor if the fans weren't so disillusioned there would be none of this.
If you're still happy to accept this turd we are being served then so be it but blind faith is something I and many on here now no longer wish to display, it doesn't mean we will stop supporting the club and just because you don't agree with it it doesn't give you the right to criticise those that don't share your view point.
I have not used the word apologist to describe anyone on here but by the sheer virtue of your post I think you are the very definition and part of the reason this club will stagnate.
After reading this forum lately I find you and Mrs b to be in an ever dwindling band.
If that is the case why don't the 2 of you form your very own breakaway forum where it's permanently bright sunny and positive then you wouldn't have to concern yourself with those of us who are simply not happy at the state of our club and don't then have to be insulted by your ilk just because we voice our displeasure.

So you are criticising their viewpoint about them criticising other people's viewpoints?

If you think anyone is totally positive at the moment then you clearly aren't reading this board properly.