Because the CC win and the GF appearance and consistent top 6 finishes (1 point), increased attendances above 10k( 2 points) and turnover over £4m (1 point) took us from a grade B to a grade A. Do you think we'd have achieved these if we'd been fighting relegation every year?

Do you really not understand this or are you just being awkward to try and look big and clever?

On the other hand St Helens, the most successful side on the field in recent SL and CC history only achieved a B grade I believe. So success on the field is clearly not the be all and end all as you claim. Incidentally despite all the gnashing of teeth and hand wringing from the likes of yourself we remain 7th in the league and in a playoff spot - enough for us to obtain the point for contributing to the competition as the new playoff structure stands. This despite another crippling injury list and visa issues. Ou crowd average will be well over 10K this year.

If Hull slip to a B grade as a result of falling crowds and league finishing position in the next couple of years then so be it. As far as I know that will still qualify us to play in the top competition. We have a superb community and youth structure, we play at a top ground and we have a large base of committed fans who will not walk away when the going gets tough. Maybe not 10K of them but 7-8K have the stomach for it. We will remain competitive as the import quotas tighten and our younger British players gain more experience. The club needs to combine that with the recruitment of top quality overseas signings which will hold up the crowd levels and improve performance. Despite poor performances this year we are 2 maybe 3 players away from competing in the top 4.



I'll leave the trying to look big and clever to you you're a past master at it I can see. How's the revolution coming along by the way ?

Why exactly do Hull FC not talk to HISA. And is FC VOICES still on the go?

Totally agree I have posted the same on many occassions trouble is have you noticed how it all goes quiet when you do! All of a sudden the thread is off away from the subject! Surely there are some of the more outspoken on here who would give it a go!

And here

Id be in

Here!

lets just say Humberside are still more popular than me

Seriously? Why what did you do?

Saddam Hussain is more popular than you

Turned kath down

My post was about Hull, not saints. st helens is a town, Hull is a city. Our potential is way above saints in terms of crowds, comemrcial opportunities etc. Anyway, I'm sure if their council had given them a shiny new stadium they'd have got top marks too



I can't think of many professional sports clubs who have thrived without success on the field. There are plenty who have disappeared or fallen off the cliff though. Prudent and professional management need to run alongside the success but I'm not convinced we're doing that particularly well at the moment either.



True, however 4 points from the last 18 means that we're going in the wrong direction and the final league positions aren't decided in May



You've changed your tune since last week when sub 10k attendances were some way off



I doubt we'd be operating at maximum cap with crowds of 7 or 8k as we don't have a sugar daddy who would pump in the £1/2m or so needed every year to sustain it. That would leave us anable to compete for the best players and struggling to keep hold of our top talent



Pretty much every team is 2 or 3 top signings away from being a top 4 side



I think you've got the wrong man there pal. I'm not one of your revolutionary types. I know that no one else will come in with enough money to buy the club and then pump a stack in to make big changes. All I want is for us to appoint a chief exec with the experience and qualities required by our club and a coach who sends the team out to win games rather than one who's sole aim is to try and bore the opposition into submission

Just done mine. Lets see if they make any difference.

Mine done also, can't see much good coming of it tho.........

Well the proof of any survey is what people do about the results. If they dont action anything visibly and transparently to improve issues being identified then it really is a waste of time.

In reality im expecting the club to see poor results and then expect us to forget we were ever asked and hide them.

Best practise would recommend they come out and honestly tell us the scores, tell us what they are planning to do to improve them and then keep us updated periodically. Wont happen though.

my infamous 'we are just cash cows' article in the HDM approx April 2006 on top of comments i made on Look North and Radio Humberside

They even considered legal action against me for it

First in a long line of unpopular people.......

I remember seeing you on look north, scared me to death, thought my TV had broke!!

I saw the same Look North programme....at first i thought i was watching a scence from one flew over the cookoo's nest!

cheeky fookers

He's receeded abit since this photo though

ive found the article

At least as a fan you stood up and said something. And just to take the urine even more out of you all, looking at all the parts I've picked out of the article, what has changed in the three years since?

They are, a disgrace, simple as.

Did Rule mention this on his propaganda hour?

If it would have been asked he would have given a straight answer