and we beat the world champs

reality check

Squad is average agree likes of Houghton, Mcintosh, Lane, Evans, mcnamara and a few more need to go

As for smith he's not won a major trophy for a long time

Is he even that good now? His bench etc has been shambolic upto now took him 2 games to notice 3 hookers doesn't work in rugby league

45 missed tackles tells you all you need to know and that was before the Dragons game
Defence always tells you everything you need to know

Every club he leaves is always in a better position then when he took over.

Is Lovodua a hooker ? Cant seem to pass, his distribution is the worst Ive seen. That said just shows how poor the squad is when you have to play people like Houghton and Lovodua in the middle.

Think your being harsh on players like Lane and Mcnamara who both have time on there side, deffo too early to write Benny Mac off. If I am honest I am more concerned by players who are supposed to be more senior. People go after Evans but Sao steals a wage for me.

But he's done nothing since wire and that was only a league leaders in 2016 ( if you fail the play offs is like winning the charity shield )

Lane is bang average, hasn't kicked on he's 26 this year not a "prospect" anymore

Mcnamara has time on his side but he's gunna be another "youngster" till he's 26/27 doing nothing

Richard Horne was an international at 20

Who's your 10 players if your not including Lane and Mcnamara!?

But agree alot of dross still in that team

Not even sure if smith is all that these days his best days was nearly 10 years ago

My record goes merrily on. On plus for me is that Hull City won and I tipped them to lose!

I won big on Wigan

I don't think the loss is a shock, but the scoreline is disappointing. Think Smith is still trying to find his best side, I do think we needed the workrate and defence of a Houghton or Cator.

I'd certainly look to change Dywer to bench hooker and start Houghton, drop Mcintosh and McNamara, Mcintosh too many errors, lightweight and poor defence. I've not seen anything from McNamara to say he I good enough yet for SL, slow, doesn't take on the line, poor kicking and hasn't that killer pass, I saw more from Hookem in 40 minutes that ie seen from McNamara.

I think we have to go with Lovodua at 6, not perfect, but he can run and cause problems as we saw a few times last season.

Bring in one of Mitch, Wynne or Litten on the wing.

I think some fans got carried away with our start and now a few are overreacting to this loss.

Big game next week though, with Saints away the week after, important we beat Salford, which won't be easy the way they play.

Stats from the game are out. Pretty grim reading. No one made 100m from us.

Important that we bounce back against Salford, they'll be hurting after 2 losses on the spin.

Dwyer missed 11 tackles. Leeds targeted him, but looks like Catalans took it to another level

The highlights are on the super League website now, not good watching. A McIntosh knock on early on and the Evans high tackle in the next set led to their first points, McIntosh comes in too far for their first try, the remaing tries are all in gaps around lane, Griffin and Dwyer

Just watched them now. They did a good job isolating Dwyer.

Think Darnell needs taking out the team for a few weeks. I'd drop Lane for Cator too.

Hopefully Tex isn't too serious. Smith said he got a knee in the back

Did you travel to France for the game !

Whilst there has been some overreactions as usual, the defence is a worry. We have 5 players in the top 20 missed tackles already.

Jordan Lane has been very poor for a while now. 3rd most missed tackles in the league last season and he's picked up from where he left off last season.

Needs to be dropped along with Mcintosh. Hopefully Mitch will be fit for next week and Dwyer is an impact player.

On another note, we are still gelling with a new spine, combinations etc and we ran in to a red hot Catalan side in which it sounded like everything come off for them.
Not an excuse but the there in back in a day doesn't sound the best preparation especially with such an early flight. They must have been up at 4/5 am yesterday morning to travel to Leeds/Bradford.

Commentator said it was a 4 o’clock start!!!! Also said fans had travelled on the plane with them

These Excuses are just laughable

Seriously have a day off

"Red hot" catalan who scraped past wakey and leigh

Missing Tomkins, Pearce, yaha, mau, whitley

We've gone there on the day a few times and hammered them

Infact majority of teams travel on the day its barely a 2 hour flight from leeds/bradford

Thank you for that, i will enjoy my day off and hope you enjoy your weekend too

Did the players have a whip round and pay for the fans flights?

3 day weekend I sure will

I think last nights result has brought a few back down with a bump, this squad is pre dominantly still the same squad that had major attitude and consistency problems.

I dont think Tony Smith has got a magic wand. We have a mixture of average players really overrated by our fans and also some with questionable mentalitys
Those are the facts.

Worked all pre season predominantly on defence and still cannot defend. At some point you have to say we need to move some on who arnt up to the expected defensive requirements.

Alot out of contract at the end of the season which is a blessing in disguise as it should allow us some shrewd recruitment under smith.

Just hope hes ruthless and doesnt end up keeping the obvious ones just because they had one good game here and there.

Mitch for Mcintosh
Carlos for Scott
Lovodua for mcnamara
Cator for Lane

Would certainley shore up the defence some.but i expect a season of inconsistency until we can get another 5 signings through the door .

Can’t argue with that. The 2 players that concern me the most are Lane & McIntosh, both have been pretty poor so far this season and I can’t remember McIntosh having anything more than a 6 out of 10 game since he joined us and can’t remember the last time Lane had decent game.

Evans also really needs to step up another level of two for a quota player we just don’t get enough from him.

Not to worried by the loss , the score line was a bit of a surprise though but it's early days yet and plenty of work still to be done . See how the team responds next week against Salford . I'd take 3 from our first 4 games .