Correct, it's been really good. Some very enjoyable afternoons/evenings on the road this season. Wigan probably the best.

These type of performances and scores are becoming more common , not a good sign at all . Our defence is really shocking, and nowhere good enough to be winning trophies. Our last tackle plays must be the worse in the league , high kick to the corner every time , there’s no wonder why we can’t build no pressure . No patience or structure to our attack . I don’t no what the answers are , but I said a while ago do we need a new voice and ideas and are the players bored of hearing the same stuff !

I've said it all season, we'll win Super League this year, I'm sticking by that. Or at the very least make the final (St's are maybe better than I thought)

Even with all the dross we've served up this season, I've got so much confidence in the group we have.

Like most victorious teams, we need a bit of luck too.

Put the glass down!

But you also make your own luck and we seem to be the masters of our own demise with all too frequent dross like tonight.

There's no excuses, we have a good group of players who seem to underperform at will.

I've only just got a buzz on, I ain't stopping yet.

I like Radford, but please no, we need a better coach

Well I guess only Saints have won more SL games than us this year. Crack on

Don’t think we need a change of head coach or assistant coach, but we deffo need a new voice in the camp. We’re crying out for some different attacking ideas, and have been for 18 months.

I think those Salford fans will start to believe they could make the Grand final, and who can blame them? They did a number on us today and are looking in tip top form in the run in.

I think our 2020 recruitment will fix a LOT of the issues. We'll be right up there with Saints, Warrington and Wigan for the title next year.

names on paper win you nothing

What about our defence?
How many games now have we we conceded over 40 points?
If we are crying out for new attacking ideas as you say and also concede so many tries i put it to you that we need a new coaching set up as we are deficient in both defence and attack

so it was crap on and off the field

It will be ‘Jam tomorrow’ next season as well
Players just act on the coaches instructions and motivation etc
Defence is the barometer of any team
There is nothing left to say

For those of you who think LR and AL can deliver a GF then in my humble opinion I forecast disappointment once more

Radford and Last have proved in 2016 & 2017 that they can coach defence. I agree it’s been poor this year especially, but the coaching staff have proved they can do it.
What has been apparent in Radfords tenure is that the attack relies on either a kick, or a piece of individualism. The structures just don’t seen to be there, and we are reliant on certain individuals.
Therefore, I’d recruit in that area. Won’t happen though.

Tevita at 5 yesterday "I'm really looking forward to this". Tevita at 8 yesterday "What the f**k have I done".

Thankfully the grand final isn't played at the KC so we still stand a chance at silverware this year.

I really don't know what's going on at our club. Everyone seems to content with the utter e that's been on display for most of the season. The players can't be d, the coach has admitted he doesn't know what to do about it and the owner has his head in the sand about all of it. Just to top it off there's so many fans busting their guts to make excuses and pretend we are doing ok. the whole of the 'Hull FC' entity is delusional.
Look at what Ian Watson is doing with Salford. No fans, no money, players sold from under his nose and they regularly produce quality rugby league. Can you imagine what someone like him could do with our squad!?

"We're the cart in the room". It certainly stank last night.

Is it bad attitude amongst the players, or just ineptness

After stewing on it abit i honestly think our problems are down to a lack of talking on the pitch, in attack and defence, players in two minds whether to take charge but not actually doing so

How do you solve that?

The other thing is that we’ve been on the end of some (too many) really heavy defeats at the KCom. - In front of the people who buy the memberships.

I’m sure that fact won’t be lost on AP.

Firstly to Salford, their fans witnessed an excellent demolition away from home, Salford led by Hastings outplayed us in a fashion which suggests they are closer to a GF than we are, congratulations.

I’ve rarely been so disappointed after a game, so low key, with so much to play for, this performance was unforgivable, terrible handling, passing, tackling, decision making we had the lot, I won’t look for scapegoats it’s pointless, as the complete club let its supporters down again, unfortunately as I said to my mate at Wakey, this season we just can’t trust our team.

It is hard to be negative about our coach, the facts are we have been top 4most of the season, semi final of the cup. I think it just highlights how poor super league is apart from saints. And to be fair, I have said through the entirety of Radford tenure, that I don’t enjoy watching hull under him. Which is a shame, because I really like him as a bloke (maybe that’s the problem)

Our attitude and mindset is shot , Our handling is as bad now as under any of the previous 3 coaches , and a coach who admits he hasn't a clue on how to fix it . A great opportunity to move into second and we churn up a performance seen far to often this season .