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| The worrying thing, is that our attack in the last few games
are showing signs of returning to pre-2016..
Maybe, the changing of the pivots mid-season hasn't helped, (ie Tuimavave for Pryce.)
I'd like to see our best defensive centre (Yeaman), play at right centre
with Michaels, and Fonua & Talanoa on the left side..
Wont happen though...
Our pack can hold its own ,against any pack in the comp...
but, the only problem looming on the horizon, is IF we can rediscover our attacking
prowess, which was evident before..
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| Credit where it's due, when you achieved 10 wins on the bounce in a salary capped sport it was very impressive but your style of play is incredibly dull. Is there more than one pass in a play? Sneyd, once again, is a very accurate kicker but if he got injured what the hell would you do?
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| Quote ="BP1"Disappointed to lose, as it always is to lose any game. Thought the game was won and lost during the spell of pressure we exerted mid second half. Failure to convert pressure into points ultimately cost us as Leeds clearly were boosted by keeping us at bay and seemed to grow in strength from that point onwards. A lack of guile and subtlety proving the difference, losing Carlos certainly disrupted us to a significant degree although Syned had probably his best game for us so far.
For the first time in 2016, Leeds looked something like their old selves and were deserving winners on the night. It was noticeable that a number of their big names players (Burrow, Hall, Moon, Watkins) all made decisive contributions to their performance.
For all that i enjoyed the game, if not the actual result. In 2016 we are still well into the credit column, although defeat next Thursday against what is sure to be a fired up rovers side may potentially turn this into a full blown wobble.
Either way, this sure as hell is a damn sight better than scrabbling around in 7th/8th/9th place which is where we have spent the bulk of the last ten years. A defeat is always disappointing no matter what the scenario, but I don't think anyone needs to reach for the cyanide tablets just yet
Onwards and upwards people, there was always going to be the odd bump in the road during the remainder of 2016, but we are still at the right end of the table and we still have so much to look forward to (fingers crossed
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No mention of the new Leeds no 9 who was the catalyst for most of what the Leeds attack did.Very good signing.
Leeds were much faster,and made easy metres up field whereas we struggled to get out our own half.
Our offload game has disappeared apart from throw the ball anywhere Fonua and until we get back to offloading and backing up runners we will continue to struggle and rely on our forwards to dig us out a result.
When Pritchard is fit he needs to play wide,busting tackles and offloading and not used as another prop down the middle.
We have gone back to clueless again in the opposition 20.
if Sneyd had a decent 6 to play off he would be sensational
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| Quote ="bonaire"No mention of the new Leeds no 9 who was the catalyst for most of what the Leeds attack did.Very good signing.
Leeds were much faster,and made easy metres up field whereas we struggled to get out our own half.
Our offload game has disappeared apart from throw the ball anywhere Fonua and until we get back to offloading and backing up runners we will continue to struggle and rely on our forwards to dig us out a result.
When Pritchard is fit he needs to play wide,busting tackles and offloading and not used as another prop down the middle.
We have gone back to clueless again in the opposition 20.
if Sneyd had a decent 6 to play off he would be sensational'"
As always your negativitey shines through. You answered a really positive post with nothing. I listened to Blunderside and even they saw the positives. Sneyd was excellent but you can't understand that we lost Tuimavave after 20 mins!!!!!! He made a try out of nothing then missed 60 minutes.
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| Abdul MOTM the last two reserve games, surely he should get a chance, as that's the point of the reserves.
Id also swap Micheals and Fonua next week.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Good to see you back. 10 weeks is a long long time.
Personally I'm not doom and gloom at all. This squad's already delivered the best run in a decade, sat in 2nd and in the cup SF. Massively surpassed my expectations for the year already.'"
You arent doom and gloom yet you lost to bottom of the league? If some of the great Saints, Wigan, Leeds or Bradford teams of super league had lost to bottom of the league, heads would roll. Just shows how poor the top half of super league is these days
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| Really disappointing performance on many levels. Our lack of energy and aggression was almost masked by how bad leeds are and had we not picked up the injuries we'd probably have won but the fact is that we only managed to score 2 tries against the worst defence in SL and condceded 4 against the worst atatck. We were terrible from minute 1 and were completely out enthused by the bottom team.
Despite all this we still managed to get into a winning position only to throw it away with some terrible individual errors. fonua was completely innefective in attack and like a turnstyle in defence. talanoa was shocking and the forwards totally out muscled. sneyd's kicking game was excellent but he needs to be doing more with ball in hand. Our attack has gone backwards at an alarming rate and the lack of ability to turn field position into points was what lost us the game last night.
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| Quote ="ChampagneSuperRovers"Credit where it's due, when you achieved 10 wins on the bounce in a salary capped sport it was very impressive but your style of play is incredibly dull. Is there more than one pass in a play? Sneyd, once again, is a very accurate kicker but if he got injured what the hell would you do?'"
Well we seem to be doing something right,seeing as where we are and our points for is rather good so cant be that dull......as for sneyd being injured...we would promote either Abdul,HTW or at a push Dean or we could go out and buy a crocked Aussie scrum half who was knackerd before he arrived.Anyway..i have a spare AA map for your middle 8 trips...oh hang on...u know the way don't you....shame OLDHAM cant be in it.
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| How can a supporter from a bottom four club fighting to even get into top eight call another Club who are second in the league and still in challenge cup ? call our half back when his club are paying a player a fortune to sit in the stands ,how many minutes has he played this season? well it good to see someone gets some thrill from a Fc defeat ..bless him
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| top team are rovers don't you know
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| Quote ="Armavinit"As always your negativitey shines through. You answered a really positive post with nothing. I listened to Blunderside and even they saw the positives. Sneyd was excellent but you can't understand that we lost Tuimavave after 20 mins!!!!!! He made a try out of nothing then missed 60 minutes.'"
Hell even stalking me from France
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| Quote ="Armavinit"As always your negativitey shines through. You answered a really positive post with nothing. I listened to Blunderside and even they saw the positives. Sneyd was excellent but you can't understand that we lost Tuimavave after 20 mins!!!!!! He made a try out of nothing then missed 60 minutes.'"
I have copied below for you Jakes post from 20.44 for you.I think you are on another planet if you think radio humberside saw positives from that game.
The only positive i saw was the performance of Mark Sneyd,and apart from effort little else.
Just think how good Sneyd would be with a quality 6 to help him.That now has to be the priority of the club if the deal for Connor has fallen through.
Really disappointing performance on many levels. Our lack of energy and aggression was almost masked by how bad leeds are and had we not picked up the injuries we'd probably have won but the fact is that we only managed to score 2 tries against the worst defence in SL and condceded 4 against the worst atatck. We were terrible from minute 1 and were completely out enthused by the bottom team.
Despite all this we still managed to get into a winning position only to throw it away with some terrible individual errors. fonua was completely innefective in attack and like a turnstyle in defence. talanoa was shocking and the forwards totally out muscled. sneyd's kicking game was excellent but he needs to be doing more with ball in hand. Our attack has gone backwards at an alarming rate and the lack of ability to turn field position into points was what lost us the game last night.
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| Quote ="Dave K."Abdul MOTM the last two reserve games, surely he should get a chance, as that's the point of the reserves.
Id also swap Micheals and Fonua next week.'"
Not sure what Michaels has to do to get an offer tbh.... He's our best centre by far..... (and Yeamo is 2nd....)
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| Quote ="bonaire"Hell even stalking me from France'"
I apologise if it comes over like that. I think Carlos has what we need at six.
It would have been a different game had he stayed on? You are right that we haven't performed as we should in the last two games but Ellis raises the bar for the rest of the team, as does Mini. Are they looking at CC semi?
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| Any news on injuries from Friday?
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| I can see a few players missing on Thursday.
Have a sneaking feeling the club are targeting the challenge cup, so can't see them risking anyone , even those with slight knocks.
In fact, it wouldn't surprise me if we don't win a game until the semi.
Not being negative, just a feeling I have.
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| Quote ="Irregular Hoops"I can see a few players missing on Thursday.
Have a sneaking feeling the club are targeting the challenge cup, so can't see them risking anyone , even those with slight knocks.
In fact, it wouldn't surprise me if we don't win a game until the semi.
Not being negative, just a feeling I have.'"
I said before the hudds game we could win or lose all of the last 4 and it's looking like the latter. I do believe they need a rethink on recruitment for next season as tuimavave isn't good enough IMO for a half at a club who genuinely want to win things and he's completely injury prone. We deseprately need some direction from the halfs. I don't think sneyd will ever be a scum half who creates lots of tries other than from kicks and we need someone who does.
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| Sneyd had a good game on Friday (excellent 40/20). He looked to be struggling near the end though with his hamstring. Big miss on Thursday if he has a problem with it.
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| Quote ="mk_fc"Not sure what Michaels has to do to get an offer tbh.... He's our best centre by far..... (and Yeamo is 2nd....)'"
He's been very solid for us but we need his quota space to sign a half back who ideally can cover hooker. Pita Godinet would be a good signing.
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| Think Carlos has all the skills, but it's hard to judge him as he hasn't had an extended run at stand off. I wouldn't be averse to signing an NRL half, but I suppose it depends on the Connor situation. Hope we get that sorted sooner rather than later.
Sneyd has only really come into his own this year. He was patchy last year, so it shows what an extended run can do. He does need help though.
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| Quote ="Marcus's Bicycle"He's been very solid for us but we need his quota space to sign a half back who ideally can cover hooker. Pita Godinet would be a good signing.'"
I agree. I like Michaels, but if it was a choice between him and a Godinet type player, I think the squad needs cover for half/hooker more.
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| Bizarrely enough, michaels is probably our 2nd best overseas/non fed player behind mini on performances this year so is unlucky to be not getting another contract IMO. I'd much rather him in the team than fonua
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| Certainly there are grounds for concern about Tuimavave's injury record. Is it three this season already? I'd like him in the centres where he showed real promise early on the season and as cover for stand off.
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Bizarrely enough, michaels is probably our 2nd best overseas/non fed player behind mini on performances this year so is unlucky to be not getting another contract IMO. I'd much rather him in the team than fonua'"
That's true.
You'd pick him before Fonua at the moment for sure. I'd put him back on the wing and Michaels to centre.
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| I think Fonua has the potential to be a very good player. He's still fairly young and some overseas players with more experience struggle to adapt to Super League in their first season. Hopefully we shall see a big improvement next season whether it be on the wing or in the centre.
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