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| I'll qualify that I haven't heard the interview, but I think Radford has a right of reply tbh. He's been asked to do a job and whatever competence level he displays I've not heard anyone question his commitment. In a highly charged working environment having thousands of people write live and damning appraisals with frankly vitriolic tone must be psychologically damaging. People want their severe and emotive criticism taken on board but can't accept an emotional reaction to it?
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| Quote ="Diogenes"Radford said the fans should not question the players' effort or commitment. I'm not aware anyone had, just his coaching ability.'"
Absolutely. I'd say most fans have openly acknowledged the effort, saying that we are clueless, not effortless.
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| Good win today, well done.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"I'll qualify that I haven't heard the interview, but I think Radford has a right of reply tbh. He's been asked to do a job and whatever competence level he displays I've not heard anyone question his commitment. In a highly charged working environment having thousands of people write live and damning appraisals with frankly vitriolic tone must be psychologically damaging. People want their severe and emotive criticism taken on board but can't accept an emotional reaction to it?'"
Of course he does. If you can't take it don't give it out I would say. It's noticeable that there is barely any mention of his name when we win on here. We have lots of shortcomings and he needs to fix up a lot of things. I had had enough on Thursday night but he's just coached a depleted team to victory at a depleted Saints. Congratulations to him and his staff.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"I'll qualify that I haven't heard the interview, but I think Radford has a right of reply tbh. He's been asked to do a job and whatever competence level he displays I've not heard anyone question his commitment. In a highly charged working environment having thousands of people write live and damning appraisals with frankly vitriolic tone must be psychologically damaging. People want their severe and emotive criticism taken on board but can't accept an emotional reaction to it?'"
All depends what has been said and how (and like you I haven't heard it). If he was having a pop at people for questioning effort & commitment (which I don't think many have) then he's on shaky ground. If he's simply thanking those who went today for staying faithful, then fair enough.
An emotional response is to be expected, but getting confrontational/provocative on the back of one win with the overall record he has and the performances we're still seeing would be a bit premature. Best to see if you can back it up first.
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"All depends what has been said and how (and like you I haven't heard it). If he was having a pop at people for questioning effort & commitment (which I don't think many have) then he's on shaky ground. If he's simply thanking those who went today for staying faithful, then fair enough.
An emotional response is to be expected, but getting confrontational/provocative on the back of one win with the overall record he has and the performances we're still seeing would be a bit premature. Best to see if you can back it up first.'"
Can't remember what he said exactly but basically he said he wasn't bothered about the fans who change their minds every week about their view but instead praised the 'hard core' fans who support the club through thick and thin. Fair enough in my opinion.
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| Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"If being fickle is still supporting your club even when you have a turd in charge then I'm guilty, what fickle ISNT is having no faith in a coach whom is well, well out of his depth, has made more mistakes than you can shake a stick at and has moved us backwards over the last 20 months at an alarming rate...and then voicing your concerns, your obvious annoyance, questioning his ability to coach at the required level..ALL valid points when you look at the performances from said coach/team and in no way does that make fans fickle, that's truly pathetic from him.
You've won one game, instead of yapping on about stuff that you clearly can't even grasp, focus on the positives, focus on what you're going to do to win the next game and the game after that. IF you're so bothered Lee that you feel the need to spout on about fans whom don't want to attend games, it's because of the dross YOU, LEE RADFORD have served up, you haven't got an effing clue...RADFORD OUT..
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Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"there's little point in having a conversation/discussion with some on here, all they are about is abusive/derogatory posts'"
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| IN Quote ="carl_spackler"All depends what has been said and how (and like you I haven't heard it). If he was having a pop at people for questioning effort & commitment (which I don't think many have) then he's on shaky ground. If he's simply thanking those who went today for staying faithful, then fair enough.
An emotional response is to be expected, but getting confrontational/provocative on the back of one win with the overall record he has and the performances we're still seeing would be a bit premature. Best to see if you can back it up first.'"
Yep, huge game on Friday. If we could win that and get through the cup game, maybe one or two players back for a vital run of games.
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"Of course he does. If you can't take it don't give it out I would say. =#0000BFIt's noticeable that there is barely any mention of his name when we win on here. We have lots of shortcomings and he needs to fix up a lot of things. I had had enough on Thursday night but he's just coached a depleted team to victory at a depleted Saints. Congratulations to him and his staff.'"
So what? Why does it need to be for an isolated win? Just as if we were winning nearly every week it wouldn't be right to rip into him or call for his head after one loss, people aren't obliged to praise him for winning one game. If he guides us to several wins and performance improvements, THEN people should be expected to man up and acknowledge he's done well.
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"So what? Why does it need to be for an isolated win? Just as if we were winning nearly every week it wouldn't be right to rip into him or call for his head after one loss, people aren't obliged to praise him for winning one game. If he guides us to several wins and performance improvements, THEN people should be expected to man up and acknowledge he's done well.'"
Bloody hell who are you ?
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"Of course he does. If you can't take it don't give it out I would say. It's noticeable that there is barely any mention of his name when we win on here. We have lots of shortcomings and he needs to fix up a lot of things. I had had enough on Thursday night but he's just coached a depleted team to victory at a depleted Saints. Congratulations to him and his staff.'"
He coached nothing.What he did was put on the field what he thought was a fit 17 he had available.
He had three hookers on the field at one time and particularly Howarth didn't know where he was supposed to be playing.Thats not coaching
He also continues to use Feka for an innefective 10 mins per game.
Whilst we are short of numbers he should recall Tyson-Wilson from Doncaster because if its only 10 mins he wants from the player then he would be more effective at the moment than Feka.
It was a great effort from the players but its just papering over the cracks and gives Radford a lifeline for another few weeks which we didn't need if you want this club to move forward
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"'"
Please point out where I have being derogatory or abusive to a poster? I've said Radford (in the third person) hasn't got an effing clue..if you think that needs to be marked out for moderation with regard to your obviously failed point..more fool you.
What my post that you helpfully highlighted was regarding constant abuse/derogatory/snidy remarks made directly toward myself from posters such as yourself..it seems you just can't help yourself but try to inflame the situation instead of passing a comment regarding Radfords remarks regarding 'fickle' fans..
Yes it's great that we won, hopefully more to come but instead of him going on about fans whom rightly or wrongly aren't turning up and being 'fickle' in his eyes, (and there are LOTS of reasons why fans would stop going to games)..he should just focus on the positives, we've a hell of a long way to go and his comments are just another nail in the coffin of my opinion on him that he hasn't got a clue, effing or otherwise..
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| Quote ="bonaire"He coached nothing.What he did was put on the field what he thought was a fit 17 he had available.
He had three hookers on the field at one time and particularly Howarth didn't know where he was supposed to be playing.Thats not coaching
He also continues to use Feka for an innefective 10 mins per game.
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It was a great effort from the players but its just papering over the cracks and gives Radford a lifeline for another few weeks which we didn't need if you want this club to move forward'"
What a tool you are , no credit to the coach for the win ??? I mean really ?
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"Can't remember what he said exactly but basically he said he wasn't bothered about the fans who change their minds every week about their view but instead praised the 'hard core' fans who support the club through thick and thin. Fair enough in my opinion.'"
Fair enough that he has the right to comment, but to be honest if that's what he said then I can't even remotely see how he's got the slightest valid point. I don't see or speak to anyone changing their mind from week to week, I think most fans are pretty consistent in that they don't think he's up to the job. This board right now shows that, people are still not convinced by him after we've just beaten the champions, the only difference is that they are now getting stick for saying so.
Also, those that have criticising him are not not supporting the club (there's a subtle difference between supporting him and supporting the club). Most, if not all, want the best for the club and believe that he is not consistent with that.
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| First things first cracking win, thought we were going to blow it at the end. Need to back it up on Friday now & hopefully rack up some tries against Sheffield to build some more confidence.
Listening on the radio did anybody else hear them talking about Houghton taking the radio off Rich Horne (think it was Horne) while he was on the field with water. I assume this was to talk to the rest of the coaching staff but it obviously isn't aloud & apparently the match commissioner didn't look to pleased about it & made a note of it. Wonder if we'll see any repercussions from it?
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"Fair enough that he has the right to comment, but to be honest if that's what he said then I can't even remotely see how he's got the slightest valid point. I don't see or speak to anyone changing their mind from week to week, I think most fans are pretty consistent in that they don't think he's up to the job. This board right now shows that, people are still not convinced by him after we've just beaten the champions, the only difference is that they are now getting stick for saying so.
Also, those that have criticising him are not not supporting the club (there's a subtle difference between supporting him and supporting the club). Most, if not all, want the best for the club and believe that he is not consistent with that.'"
How do you get to the conclusion that MOST fans ??
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| Quote ="bonaire"He coached nothing.'"
If his bad coaching is responsible for our losses then it's only fair he gets credit for the wins. Let's face it, that hasn't exactly been an onerous task over the last several months.
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| Quote ="bonaire"He coached nothing.What he did was put on the field what he thought was a fit 17 he had available.
He had three hookers on the field at one time and particularly Howarth didn't know where he was supposed to be playing.Thats not coaching
He also continues to use Feka for an innefective 10 mins per game.
Whilst we are short of numbers he should recall Tyson-Wilson from Doncaster because if its only 10 mins he wants from the player then he would be more effective at the moment than Feka.
It was a great effort from the players but its just papering over the cracks and gives Radford a lifeline for another few weeks which we didn't need if you want this club to move forward'"
Nothing like a good "It's down to the players when we win and the coach when we lose" argument.
By the way he lost Hadley after 5 mins so was probably unable to rotate his fit 17 any other way. What would you have done - played with 12 so we didn't have 3 hookers on at once ?
If we lose to Widnes then he's missed my target of 2 wins from 3 over Easter and I'd get rid personally. I could never, ever be disappointed with a win though unless perhaps it saved KR from relegation. Any fan who wants Hull to lose isn't a fan - that's my opinion and it won't be changed.
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"Bloody hell who are you ?
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I'm just a fan, same as you. However I haven't decided to judge fellow fans for not praising Radford for one win.
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| Quote ="bonaire"He coached nothing.What he did was put on the field what he thought was a fit 17 he had available.
He had three hookers on the field at one time and particularly Howarth didn't know where he was supposed to be playing.Thats not coaching
He also continues to use Feka for an innefective 10 mins per game.
Whilst we are short of numbers he should recall Tyson-Wilson from Doncaster because if its only 10 mins he wants from the player then he would be more effective at the moment than Feka.
It was a great effort from the players but its just papering over the cracks and gives Radford a lifeline for another few weeks which we didn't need if you want this club to move forward'"
Unfortunately, the Internet gives every bonehead a platform.
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| Quote ="bonaire"He coached nothing.What he did was put on the field what he thought was a fit 17 he had available.
He had three hookers on the field at one time and particularly Howarth didn't know where he was supposed to be playing.Thats not coaching
He also continues to use Feka for an innefective 10 mins per game.
Whilst we are short of numbers he should recall Tyson-Wilson from Doncaster because if its only 10 mins he wants from the player then he would be more effective at the moment than Feka.
It was a great effort from the players but its just papering over the cracks and gives Radford a lifeline for another few weeks which we didn't need if you want this club to move forward'"
Cheer up, we are one day closer to Radford leaving the club. Just enjoy the win.
Thanks for the wallpapering metaphor though.
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| Quote ="Legends and Icons"How do you get to the conclusion that MOST fans ??'"
Extrapolated from those I know, sit near, and on here. It's not a fact, just my opinion from the impression I get.
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"I'm just a fan, same as you. However I haven't decided to judge fellow fans for not praising Radford for one win.'"
No - but you've told us all when we're allowed to
Some of the vitriol towards Radford on here is disgraceful in my opinion I like to highlight how disingenuous some 'fans' are.
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"No - but you've told us all when we're allowed to
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That's not what I said. People are allowed to whenever they want. What I said was when they should be expected to, as in when I think it would be fair to call them into question for not doing so, as you are now.
Quote ="Staffs FC"Some of the vitriol towards Radford on here is disgraceful in my opinion I like to highlight how disingenuous some 'fans' are.'"
Personal abuse is not right. Commenting on how he does the job is fair game.
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| Quote ="Legends and Icons"Needed widnes with 22startto finish off my bet for £70 , can't believe there rested players
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