On the subject of away fans I would suggest that our opponents really push the ticket sales in advance which sees £2 I think, of every away ticket going to the away club. Hull push it and reap a benefit from the away faithful. It's not insurmountable.

Bottom line whichever way we like to look at it is that we play in a modern stadium and it will have modern facilities. Yes RL has more "walk ups" than premiership football. And I emphasise premiership there. You can't tell me that the rest of the football league, rugby union, cricket etc etc have this issue.
It is simply up to the club to be a little creative. City next season all being well will be reliant on walk ups as they lose the glory hunters.
I live near Crawley. You can purchase Crawley Town tickets in my local newsagents. You can also purchase on line. I would suggest if you are on here bleating you are also on line. It really is not difficult.

I am no fan of the fake Dr but come on. The more we whinge as opposed to getting on with it and appearing not to be effected the less fun he has.
Adam is doing things correctly. He has to represent the club and us fans in a dignified way. Some of you on here saying you won't go again because of this policy frankly are not believable. Or simply trolls.

They did, but they didn't want the ongoing responsibility of running and maintaining it. They preferred also not to go with a standard management deal, apparently - to offer the tenant clubs a better deal than would otherwise been possible. Good intention paving, innit?

You know if all else fails then we could simply have a number of staff members stood around the ground on match day with a bunch of tickets and just buy off them, sometimes the simplest solution is the best.

City don't even sell out now for some of the less attractive matches and that's with tickets costing much less than against the big clubs. If they get relegated season ticket sales will fall through the floor and they will need walk up support too. Maybe by then, or soon after, they will have an owner who doesn't bear grudges and whom AP can deal with sensibly.

If Allam sells the club won't he retain control of the SMC?

If so, I can see him squeezing both teams for every penny he can.

Playing Thursday and Friday night matches will never attract away fans in any great numbers.
Traditional Sunday afternoon games will always attract more away supporters.

Most people have computers or smart phones.
The simple way forward here is for the club to have an online ticket purchase facility so that you can just print the ticket from your printer or have the ticket bar code on your mobile device.
Cant be that difficult.

I have a possible solution, but it still will need some time. The season pass is a smart card with games pre-loaded. Is the way forward to have a scheme where people can buy this smart card for the cost of producing it and then load the games they want to attend onto it by buying games, whether that is online, via an app of in person at one of the retail outlets. Cuts out the iossue of paper tickets and once in place costs the club the same as administering the season pass scheme.

Call it a membership scheme, season pass holders are gold members in that they have their whole season loaded, but it would also allow passholders to start loading cash to pay for their next season's tickets. members without whole seasons loaded could be silver members, but could still load money to be able to download games to the ticket (call it an occasional season pass)

This would allow the club access to their customers and understand who their occasional attenders are.

This would take time, but it would allow for occasional attenders to obtain a card and when they wish to attend load a ticket from homw or at the stadium without too much hassle.

The Club are producing leaflets and fliers to give out tomorrow about it all I think.

But all the ideas about on line ticket sales, pre loaded smart cards, kiosks selling unreserved tickets and selling them in pubs around the ground that have featured on here are great but the SMC has to give us permission to do that. Its in their gift, they hold the ground certificates and license and are responsible by law for one ticket one seat, so they would have to pull off the tickets in advance for the kiosks and/or they would have to set up an on line booking service.

And if they refuse to give us permission to do any of these things (which would cost it nothing) we'll know its not just about the SMC wanting to cut its costs and there is another agenda.

Not everyone has access to "modern day technology", and any such ticketing system would probably need to be implemented by the SMC.

who doesn't have access, everyone either has access to the internet or will have a family or friend member who has.

I'm sure the SMC would go for this, as they get their unmanned turnstyles and more money.

Personally I'd prefer that they remained some turnstyles but if that isn't possible they are easy ways to make it easier for fans to buy tickets on a weekly basis.

Really?

Hull city already have a buy online facility where if you buy them by the Wednesday before the game they post them out to you, you can even pick your individual seat, if it's after the Wednesday you just pick them up at the ticket office with a dedicated queue for collectiions, I've been doing this for a few years and could never understand why hull don't do the same.

That said the brother in law uses the print at home facility for rovers and that works well too.

Just had a look - very impressive - you can even select specific seats. I wonder why it's a City only facility.

Are the SMC just being dicks to FC or are we not engaging with them enough? Or a combination of both?

Why would he want to retain control of a "loss making" business?

It's probably one of these "you can use it if you pay for it", which doesn't apply to City. Bit biased mind.

Yes I can't think of one person I know who hasn't access to the internet or could get someone to buy and print off a ticket.

Not a very convincing argument.

What evidence do you want me to provide?

Are you telling me you know people who either don't have the internet or have some friends or family who could do it for them?

Sorry, but you are saying that because you know of nobody who hasn't access one way or another, then everybody has access, which is very unlikely.

If you're happy to use a "friends" pc to buy over the internet using your credit/debit card, then good luck.

Id say that nearly 100% of hull fans will have access to the internet through their own or a friend or family.

Personally I trust all my friends and family and would be happy to use my credit card on their computers.

Karoo has nearly 90,000 subscribers, with an average of just under 3 people per household I think most of the near 250,000 population of Hull is covered. I think it would be safe to think of the amount of people that are 1) Hull FC fans. 2) Not season ticket holders. 3) Can't get to the stadium before game day - is negligible.