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| Quote ="Hessle Roader"I was the one who used the phrase "last chance saloon" and its obviously been taken out of context by certain people. At no point was I referring to AP but to the supporters who will walk if things don't improve quickly and dramatically. I am a great admirer of AP who I think has brought some fresh ideas to the club but who, like everyone on here, is also able to make mistakes. Following his "state of the nation" speech, I'll give him the leeway he's entitled to, but will reserve judgement on whether that will continue in the future if things don't get better.'"
Sorry - I know that's what you meant although it follows that if all the supporters bugger off then it's also the last chance saloon for AP. No supporters = no club I would imagine - a fairly simple equation. As I've said many times though the idea of some supporters leaving the fold when times are tough isn't a new one. It's always happened. Some fans have more of a stomach for tough times than others - it's peoples' own choice and whatever they decide doesn't make them better or worse than anyone else.
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| Quote ="Robbo4"The things AP is saying now were being said by Radford behind closed doors last season so yes I believe it was Radford that "advised" (there you go is that word less laughable for you?) AP in that regard. In fact I was told before Wembley that Radford was replacing Gentle at the end of that season.'"
I can easily believe the last bit as one of the national dailies got hold of it before Wembley. Pearson isn't stupid and wouldn't have needed many reasons for getting rid knowing that the likes of Jacob Miller was one of our top earners and Joe Arundel was nicely secured on a highly lucrative 4 year deal. If Radford thought the same and did speak out he was right to do so - hardly back stabbing.
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"I can easily believe the last bit as one of the national dailies got hold of it before Wembley. Pearson isn't stupid and wouldn't have needed many reasons for getting rid knowing that the likes of Jacob Miller was one of our top earners and Joe Arundel was nicely secured on a highly lucrative 4 year deal. If Radford thought the same and did speak out he was right to do so - hardly back stabbing.'"
The papers said he would be sacked but not that Radford would be taking over IIRC. Radford didn't just bad mouth recruitment he was bad mouthing training sessions game plans etc etc which AP laterally also started doing. No way did AP wander down to the training ground one day and think to himself "that ex Aussie national Assistant coach doesn't know how to run a training session".
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| Quote ="Robbo4"The papers said he would be sacked but not that Radford would be taking over IIRC. Radford didn't just bad mouth recruitment he was bad mouthing training sessions game plans etc etc which AP laterally also started doing. No way did AP wander down to the training ground one day and think to himself "that ex Aussie national Assistant coach doesn't know how to run a training session".'"
If the club eventually does get turned around then even more credit to Radford in that case. It would be hard to get away with bad mouthing a high quality setup - even to an owner new into the game. One man's backstabber is another man's whistle blower etc...
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"If the club eventually does get turned around then even more credit to Radford in that case. It would be hard to get away with bad mouthing a high quality setup - even to an owner new into the game.'"
Well on the performance of the team so far the logical conclusion would be training and game plans have actually got worse and maybe the highly experienced ex National Assistant coach actually knew slightly more than the East Hull coach with less than a years professional coaching experience as an assistant. Maybe. Guess time will tell.
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| Quote ="easthull fc fan"I know what our squad are on, I know our top 3 earners are Ellis, Miller, Paea, in that order I know their exact wage & I know Crooks is on more then that so stop thinking you know what you're on about.'"
Nice one, I think I'll back myself on this one.
Probably not a good idea to embarrass the likes of Crooks and Miller at team meetings especially Benny Boy if you really want him to sign a new contract.
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| Quote ="Doc Brown"It sounds to me that there's a lot of stuff going on behind the scenes that we the fans aren't aware of and it's had an effect on the team and the performances this year. AP acknowledged more than once that the season has been a disaster.'"
I'd like to here more details of these 'off field issues' before I take them seriously, obviously the club can't talk about McDonnel as he has legal action pending, but I struggle to think what issues could have caused a whole squad of approx 30 people to play so badly.
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| Quote ="MrPhilb"Wrong, he has been offered a two year extention and a 15% cut in salary'"
Our owner is not even meeting him and his agent to start extension talks till the middle of next week.
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| Quote ="The Dentist Wilf"Our owner is not even meeting him and his agent to start extension talks till the middle of next week.'"
Ok then, well when he is playing for Huddersfield next season you can apologise.
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| Quote ="easthull fc fan"I know what our squad are on, I know our top 3 earners are Ellis, Miller, Paea, in that order I know their exact wage & I know Crooks is on more then that so stop thinking you know what you're on about.'"
I don't wish to know amounts. Just how you know. PM me please. See if we know the same way
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| Quote ="MrPhilb"Nice one, I think I'll back myself on this one.
Probably not a good idea to embarrass the likes of Crooks and Miller at team meetings especially Benny Boy if you really want him to sign a new contract.'"
You really need to focus on the drink and clubbing culture that's got a hold at Rovers. After all, you're paying them to sit in the stands nursing hangovers. That's not good. I thought that had been stamped out when Cockayne was sac- oh, wait, you [ibought[/i him back.
How much did it cost to bring Ulugia over and to pay off Walker?
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| Quote ="MrPhilb"Ok then, well when he is playing for Huddersfield next season you can apologise.'"
Obsessed by us again i see
Try concentrating on the troubles at your own club
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| Crooks is back training with the club, after a few issues, hopefully it will get sorted as we are desperate for an attacking centre with some pace and flair.
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| Quote ="easthull fc fan"I know what our squad are on, I know our top 3 earners are Ellis, Miller, Paea, in that order I know their exact wage & I know Crooks is on more then that so stop thinking you know what you're on about.'"
Good luck in your new job Tony.
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| Quote ="Chris28"Good luck in your new job Tony.'"
I'm not claiming to be Mr Sutton, just because I know how our cap is spent.
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| Quote ="easthull fc fan"I'm not claiming to be Mr Sutton, just because I know how our cap is spent.'"
In which case you're either being extremely unprofessional, shouting the odds about people's earnings on a public forum, or you're getting very close to betraying the confidence that the person who told you had in you.
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| Quote ="Chris28"In which case you're either being extremely unprofessional, shouting the odds about people's earnings on a public forum, or you're getting very close to betraying the confidence that the person who told you had in you.'"
Spot on.
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| Quote ="Chris28"In which case you're either being extremely unprofessional, shouting the odds about people's earnings on a public forum, or you're getting very close to betraying the confidence that the person who told you had in you.'"
I was just putting the kr troll right by stating he was wrong, I did not mention any figures, just the top 3 earners & How he was wrong on Crooks. Never betrayed anyone.
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| Quote ="easthull fc fan"I was just putting the kr troll right by stating he was wrong, I did not mention any figures, just the top 3 earners & How he was wrong on Crooks. Never betrayed anyone.'"
Quote ="easthull fc fan"I know what our squad are on, I know our top 3 earners are Ellis, Miller, Paea, in that order I know their exact wage & I know Crooks is on more then that so stop thinking you know what you're on about.'"
The figures are irrelevant.
You claim to know. If you do know, my point stands
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| Quote ="Chris28"The figures are irrelevant.
You claim to know. If you do know, my point stands'"
I do know thanks, so when someone is posting about a topic they know nothing about we are not able to put them right? I posted he was wrong stated a few other facts along with it & that makes me unprofessional?
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| Quote ="easthull fc fan"I do know thanks, so when someone is posting about a topic they know nothing about [uwe are not able to put them right[/u? I posted he was wrong stated a few other facts along with it & that makes me unprofessional?'"
Of course you are, but when you get the information to do so from a privileged position, its not very smart to start shouting about it. Equally, if you aren't prepared to say how you know, it just looks like bragging, which in my view is unprofessional (and Piers Morgan-esque).
If you've got to know through your job, then it's personal information between the client (whoever that is) and the company that really shouldn't be talked about in the public domain even if you aren't revealing figures. Are you prepared to tell everyone how much you're on?
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| Quote ="Chris28"Of course you are, but when you get the information to do so from a privileged position, its not very smart to start shouting about it. Equally, if you aren't prepared to say how you know, it just looks like bragging, which in my view is unprofessional (and Piers Morgan-esque).
If you've got to know through your job, then it's personal information between the client (whoever that is) and the company that really shouldn't be talked about in the public domain even if you aren't revealing figures. Are you prepared to tell everyone how much you're on?'"
It's not through my job, I build dreams I'm nothing to do with accounts/figures, so if anybody posts a single thing on here & you know they are wrong, you won't post to put them right? As for bragging which I am not, I do know a very lot about our club & would be posting a lot of facts which I don't, I just put the kr fan who claims to know about our players finances/contracts on the right path, it maybe did come across as if I was showing off to you, but trust me I wasn't, so I will just read posts what are not true & not comment if I know any truth from now on.
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| Quote ="easthull fc fan"It's not through my job, I build dreams I'm nothing to do with accounts/figures'"
I literally have no idea what that means
Quote so if anybody posts a single thing on here & you know they are wrong, you won't post to put them right? '"
Yes and I haven't said you can't, I'm commenting about the way its done. Why are you so bothered about a Rovers troll making stuff up anyway?
Quote As for bragging which I am not, I do know a very lot about our club & would be posting a lot of facts which I don't, I just put the kr fan who claims to know about our players finances/contracts on the right path, it maybe did come across as if I was showing off to you, but trust me I wasn't, so I will just read posts what are not true & not comment if I know any truth from now on.'"
Be sure to pack that ball away carefully.
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| Quote ="MrPhilb"Ok then, well when he is playing for Huddersfield next season you can apologise.'"
=#FF0000Not on here please.
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| Quote ="Chris28"Of course you are, but when you get the information to do so from a privileged position, its not very smart to start shouting about it. Equally, if you aren't prepared to say how you know, it just looks like bragging, which in my view is unprofessional (and Piers Morgan-esque).
If you've got to know through your job, then it's personal information between the client (whoever that is) and the company that really shouldn't be talked about in the public domain even if you aren't revealing figures. Are you prepared to tell everyone how much you're on?'"
He's not responded to my question.
And as for how much is he on? his pocket money is £1 per week, FACT
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