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| Quote ="paintman"Both grounds where cold but I think the atmosphere was better than it is now on Derby days.Too many derbies now imo'"
Yes I would especially agree with you on that aspect.
The big build up to the games would start at least one week before and would intensify as time progressed.
I used to work for a large components factory in those days on Hessle road and because of its location the bulk of the workforce were Hull fc fans, which always made it even more important that we win, otherwise life would be unbearable the following week at work, I've even known fans throw a sickie rather than face the aftermath at work of a defeat.
Life around the city centre was also notably different in the week or two prior to the game, the banter in the pubs was constant and even the last buses home (11pm) in the evening would be eventful, with Rovers and Hull fC fans trying their hardest to out sing each other on the way home.
Derby day itself would usually start with people packing out and singing in the pubs before eventually heading of to the grounds which were always packed out to the rafters.
Although the passion of the fans today is still there in the abundance, as ever, I sometimes feel that there is not quite the same intensity and magic about it at the moment and I believe as you do, that to many derbies in a season may be one of the reasons, just my opinion of course.
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| Quote ="Funk-Doc"Slightly better view due to the elevation but distance wise just as bad if not worse!! there was about a 30ft walkway from the stand to the barrier!!! suppose some fans only see what they want to see??'"
I couldn't even see what I wanted to see stood down the side at the Boulevard, in front of the 'best' stand - all you could see was the person in front of you cos the steps were that small, or at best the players ankles
We've both moved on, we have to stand/sit behind the sticks at most away games, you just have to accept it.
I hope enough 'ull fans come to create a decent atmosphere and that everyone behaves themselves - that's directed at both sides.
May the best team win
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| Quote ="Seventies red"Yes I would especially agree with you on that aspect.
The big build up to the games would start at least one week before and would intensify as time progressed.
I used to work for a large components factory in those days on Hessle road and because of its location the bulk of the workforce were Hull fc fans, which always made it even more important that we win, otherwise life would be unbearable the following week at work, I've even known fans throw a sickie rather than face the aftermath at work of a defeat.
Life around the city centre was also notably different in the week or two prior to the game, the banter in the pubs was constant and even the last buses home (11pm) in the evening would be eventful, with Rovers and Hull fC fans trying their hardest to out sing each other on the way home.
Derby day itself would usually start with people packing out and singing in the pubs before eventually heading of to the grounds which were always packed out to the rafters.
Although the passion of the fans today is still there in the abundance, as ever, I sometimes feel that there is not quite the same intensity and magic about it at the moment and I believe as you do, that to many derbies in a season may be one of the reasons, just my opinion of course.'"
Agree with all of that
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| Quote ="Seventies red"Those of us on here old enough to remember the derby games of old, played during the winter months at the old Craven park and the Boulevard will also remember the grounds been filled to the rafters on derby days.
Both grounds facilities in those days were no where near the standards of today but you rarely heard people saying.... I'm not going to this or that sh..t hole, such was the fanatical passion of both sets of supporters .
I cannot understand any fan of either side who say they wont go to either of the two grounds on the basis that it puts money in the others coffers or the ground is cr..p etc etc.
In my opinion, anyone who comes out with such excuses is either a part time supporter or a soft pussy wussy .
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I'm not old enough to remember those days but I'm guessing that there wasn't the same number of derbies as there is these days. + I imagine they weren't all televised too.
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| Quote ="Seventies red"That is true you could, one end in particular was uncovered,whilst the other(the toke end) was partially covered by a small shed but the view wasn't to bad as I remember.
However, the old Boulevard wasn't much different from the current south stand at Craven park in relation to the distance from the pitch side, the only probable difference been the terracing was at a slightly steeper angle at the Gordon street end.'"
Surely you mean the tote end?
Place was a sheethole but infinitely better than the current caravan park for watching a game.
Biggest difference now is the fans are in separate stands whereas in the good old days you could mix. I remember watching derbies in the "popular" stand at the old CP and in the east stand at the current one. Much better atmosphere
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| Rovers Pitch looking great ahead of the derby.
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Place was a sheethole but infinitely better than the current caravan park for watching a game.
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Once we sort a decent standing terrace with a roof and extend the final part of the east stand we'll have a really cracking little quaint ground. Rumours afoot that the plans are too be shortly announced which would really finish off the ground.
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| Quote ="Easty"Once we sort a decent standing terrace with a roof and extend the final part of the east stand we'll have a really cracking little quaint ground. Rumours afoot that the plans are too be shortly announced which would really finish off the ground.'"
Apart from the shocking "best" stand of course
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| Quote ="Easty"Once we sort a decent standing terrace with a roof and extend the final part of the east stand we'll have a really cracking little quaint ground. Rumours afoot that the plans are too be shortly announced which would really finish off the ground.'"
Bulldozer ??
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Apart from the shocking "best" stand of course'"
The fans that go in there every other week enjoy the high up view. You get a great picture of plays forming and get a much better understanding of how teams play. Don't know why you have a downer on it I've watched many an academy game from there and never had a problem with the view or facilities. Granted it could be wider which would improve it massively but it isn't shocking.
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| Quote ="Easty"Rovers Pitch looking great ahead of the derby.
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Restricted view seat?
Is that like the box with iron girders in the windows?
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| Quote ="Easty"The fans that go in there every other week enjoy the high up view. You get a great picture of plays forming and get a much better understanding of how teams play. Don't know why you have a downer on it I've watched many an academy game from there and never had a problem with the view or facilities. Granted it could be wider which would improve it massively but it isn't shocking.'"
Except 50% of seats have restricted views
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| Quote ="Easty"Rovers Pitch looking great ahead of the derby.
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Funny how you arnt showing many pictures from the south end..can't your camera/phone take a long distance shot?
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| Quote ="easthull fc fan"Funny how you arnt showing many pictures from the south end..can't your camera/phone take a long distance shot?'"
Too fat to walk that far
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| I've been on the south terrace once. My problem with it isn't so much the distance from the pitch, it's the fact it's so low to the ground. You can't see the in goal area at that end because of the advertising hoardings. If Rovers sort that end out then it's a decent little ground.
I don't mind going to the old, run down, grounds, Cas, Wakey, lots of the championship clubs. They are often some of my favourite trips, and I can't argue that they are nicer grounds than CP, because they aren't, they are dives. However, and I'm not saying this just to get a bite. Craven Park always strikes me as a bit soulless. I don't know if it's because there's no history there, or because until now it's been wide open at the ends, but I just never get that feeling of community like at the other small grounds.
And before anyone bites, yes the KC is soulless too, but we have nice toilets.
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| Quote ="Mr. Zucchini Head"I've been on the south terrace once. My problem with it isn't so much the distance from the pitch, it's the fact it's so low to the ground. You can't see the in goal area at that end because of the advertising hoardings. If Rovers sort that end out then it's a decent little ground.
I don't mind going to the old, run down, grounds, Cas, Wakey, lots of the championship clubs. They are often some of my favourite trips, and I can't argue that they are nicer grounds than CP, because they aren't, they are dives. However, and I'm not saying this just to get a bite. Craven Park always strikes me as a bit soulless. I don't know if it's because there's no history there, or because until now it's been wide open at the ends, but I just never get that feeling of community like at the other small grounds.
And before anyone bites, yes the KC is soulless too, but we have nice toilets.'"
Totally agree, ground was built in the incorrect areas, pain to get too and not enough decent pubs around it.
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| Quote ="Seventies red"Those of us on here old enough to remember the derby games of old, played during the winter months at the old Craven park and the Boulevard will also remember the grounds been filled to the rafters on derby days.
Both grounds facilities in those days were no where near the standards of today but you rarely heard people saying.... I'm not going to this or that sh..t hole, such was the fanatical passion of both sets of supporters .
I cannot understand any fan of either side who say they wont go to either of the two grounds on the basis that it puts money in the others coffers or the ground is cr..p etc etc.
In my opinion, anyone who comes out with such excuses is either a part time supporter or a soft pussy wussy .
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Its a slightly rose tinted retrospective view you have. I started watching Hull FC in 1981. The derbies then were very much packed to the rafters at the Boulevard with gates of 18k-20k on a number of occasions. I can recall a couple of games at the real craven park of 16k (capacity at the time).
This level of attendance significantly dropped off after 1984.
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| Paul fletcher as just told me Weymans out the game tonight.
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| Our pack will be too big and strong for them and we'll get a roll on for Rankin & Miller to exploit, get on top early and keep the East terrace chavs quite I can see a comfortably win.
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| I'm not going in South stand ever again as struggle to see past the halfway line due to the curvature of the earth.
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Surely you mean the tote end?
Place was a sheethole but infinitely better than the current caravan park for watching a game.
Biggest difference now is the fans are in separate stands whereas in the good old days you could mix. I remember watching derbies in the "popular" stand at the old CP and in the east stand at the current one. Much better atmosphere'"
Yes I did mean the Tote end, not sure why I put toke, but hey ho I'll alive with it.
I disagree with you saying that the old Craven park was better than the new one, especially given the fact that the new North stand is in place.
The one aspect That I perhaps would agree on is that the atmosphere at the old Craven park seemed better than the current one, I believe this was perhaps due to the old East stand in particular been much shallower than the current one and more compact, you sometimes couldn't get a matchstick between bodies on big match days, this could be part reason for the better atmosphere imo.
However, the elevation in the old East stand was poor and no where near as good as the new one so the new stand wins hands down on that aspect, plus the facilities were not very good then, you couldn't even get a beer or a sandwich after a certain time in the bars and you certainly were not allowed to take a beer on to the stands.
The old Boulevard was much the same, it was quite shallow and very compact with a much better atmosphere than the current Kc, even though you get far more people in one of the Kc stands
Both main stands were also closer to the touchline's than they currently are, it was probably the main reason why away teams hated coming to either the Boulevard or the old Craven park, they were so intimidating places to play.
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| Quote ="GEvans75"Our pack will be too big and strong for them and we'll get a roll on for Rankin & Miller to exploit, get on top early and keep the East terrace chavs quite I can see a comfortably win.'"
Should work that way, but you just never know.
Looking at their team, i cant see were there threat is going to come from, looks a solid but unspectacular team, reminds be of us under Agar. As long our discipline is right and our error count low, I think we will win, with our pack being too strong for them.
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| Quote ="easthull fc fan"Paul fletcher as just told me Weymans out the game tonight.'"
Sure it's not a wind up? Know loveGrove struggling,keatin out according to my pal, thinks salter out too which would mean Carlisle in half's! May take a punt on bag snatcher but seen him in gym last night and was on treadmill blowing out his backside!
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| Should be a walk in the park for FC then!
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