Effort sounded top notch, brains and discipline sounded poor. A narrow defeat away to the champions sounds not bad but surrendering a lead to 12 men is criminal IMO. Given the context of the facts I listed above, I really don't see the grounds for praising Agar, giving him credit etc

Agar on HullFC.com has come in and given him three haymakers from behind, so they’re maybe lucky only to get one guy sent off. “I’m happy our blokes responded in the way they did, because if they’re not going to get the right protection during the game with some of that stuff going on then they’re entitled to do that.” www.hullfc.com/newsarticle.aspx? ... um=twitter

Agar on HullFC.com has come in and given him three haymakers from behind, so they’re maybe lucky only to get one guy sent off. “I’m happy our blokes responded in the way they did, because if they’re not going to get the right protection during the game with some of that stuff going on then they’re entitled to do that.” www.hullfc.com/newsarticle.aspx? ... um=twitter

I wish everyone would stop with this excuse of "we lost to the champions in their own back yard" quins turned saints over in their tempory back yard and saints were grand finalists and nearly champions and have been champions many times, what wigan did last year had no bearing on today especially as they were understrenght aswell.

Granted i didnt expect a win today but being 8-12 up with 10 mins to go and having the extra man we should of put the game to bed we have some very experienced players who should of seen the team over the line in that situation but the fact is we choked big time and that is down to the players and the coach, ill admit we have slightly improved but its still the same old failings and poor tactics that are costing us games so im yet to be convinced that we have turned the corner.

And on thesame basis, you're saying "No, I didn't go. I never do, I just like to moan about something I didn't see because I'm a whinging =#FF0000no thank you"

Quote ="FC Wembley 08"And on thesame basis, you're saying "No, I didn't go. I never do, I just like to moan about something I didn't see because I'm a whinging =#FF0000no thank you"'" No I was talking about the result, and in particular the result in the context of the rest of our results this season. Trying to take it down the 'I went so my opinion means more' line won't wash with a lot of people on here and is an attempt to de-rail the thread. That's pretty strong language you've used towards me there though, seems like you haven't got over the time I exposed you as a racist. Here's the link for anyone that missed it: viewtopic.php?f=34&t=477340

Quote ="FC Wembley 08"And on thesame basis, you're saying "No, I didn't go. I never do, I just like to moan about something I didn't see because I'm a whinging =#FF0000no thank you"'" No I was talking about the result, and in particular the result in the context of the rest of our results this season. Trying to take it down the 'I went so my opinion means more' line won't wash with a lot of people on here and is an attempt to de-rail the thread. That's pretty strong language you've used towards me there though, seems like you haven't got over the time I exposed you as a racist. Here's the link for anyone that missed it: viewtopic.php?f=34&t=477340

It is amazing that after a couple of very poor seasons, that such a small ray of sunshine can bring such a lot of joy for some fans.
We had a couple of decent games last year against Saints and Warrington, but overall we were still a poor side with a clueless coach.

The only thing I can see improved under Agar is the player personnel, but even some of that has been a bit iffy.

It was one game where the team could take alot of positives from, so what is wrong with that?.If they show the same commitment and passion that they did against Wigan yesterday the results will take care of themselves and i for one will be more than happy.

That has pretty much summed up my thoughts having spoken to a fair few who did make the trip, I just hope it hasn't taken a lot out of the players, working that hard and getting nothing could provoke very different reactions, from determination to desparation.

Yeah - far better to just be miserable all the time regardless of results or performances.

Your right it was a full bloodied game and even thou we lost the game,only just...Hull showed they can mix it up with the best.They have set a benchmark of where they need to be, so fingers crossed we can now start to turn our fortunes around.

Great performance yesterday, but why are we all get excited about the effort, commitment and passion that was shown yesterday?

For me that should be a given, and someting I expect as a minimum from whoever is fortunate enough to pull on the B&W shirt each week, unfortunately we don't always get it, so hopefully yesterday is the turning point.

It's called 'clutching at straws'.



Precisely.



Hopefully, but after three years we shouldn't still be looking for a 'turning point'.

Exactly what I said about FC we are going to get the Chokers tag and it seems well deserved im afraid to say

I love coming on here and reading the armchair pundits view on how well we played.

Not as much as we love reading how you can't be a fan unless you attend games, which is a total nonsense.

And were exactly have I stated that.

If we play the way it sounded like we played yesterday and have played the last couple of weeks we'll win more than we lose.

Also, it seems to me that a lot of people like to complain about how bad a coach Agar is, but haven't given him any credit for much improved defence over the past 3 weeks? Admittedly our right side sliding defence needs improving but other than that from what I've seen we've improved by far from our first 2 games.

My thoughts exactly. We really should be be bemoaning the fact that we threw away the chance of 2 points against a weakened wigan side who lost one of their half backs early on and spent the last 10 minutes down to 12 men.

As you say, let's hope it's a turning point and next time we go on to beat one of the top teams and start to do it regularly

Here here, should have a good run now.

Agreed!
It was one game that we showed we can play. Last year we showed in a couple of games that we can play.
That is the problem, we can but we don't.

We showed the week before with Cru? And arguabley against Hudds?

Yet lost 2 of them.

Wasn't the point.

The point is it's hardly "proving we can play" if we keep losing is it?

If we play like I heard we did yesterday, I have no doubt we will win more then we lose.

Like it has been said, we will win games this season and play worse then yesterday.