Can't see anyone making excuses TBH. I can see people too upset to actually see what other posters are saying though. I can also see people (not you) embarrassing themselves over what looks to be a complete non-event involving Ogre and lacking the courage to admit they might have been wrong.

Not good times to be an FC fan ATM.

I agree, just some people on here like to be controversial.
Agar has shown over 3 seasons he simply isnt up to it, he should be out of a job now - but in all honesty the board wont even consider getting rid unless we lose to both Crusaders and Wigan.

As much as I want us to win to get off the mark, a win would buy Agar a few more weeks.

B0llox more like the board, he doesnt give a toss about the fans, hates it hear already looking to go back home reckoned going to Fc was the worst mistake of his career....... Prefer to be playing for KR thing the two fingers meant your the 2nd best club in the city lol

its the coaches job to motivate the players and create a 'culture' at the club. Agar made it clear he was clearing out the players with bad attitudes/off-field problems and both the board and the fans backed him in doing so (Can't say I've heard anyone disagree with his decision over Tansey for example)

he's built this squad, so if there are still players who don't care about the club...then its entirely his fault.

I really don't see how it could be seen as people embarrassing themselves ?

Like everything to do with Hull Fc it is not fact till the club say so. However I think people have a right to be concerned if it is true.

I myself can't believe any player would do such a thing to the there own supporters, however with what has gone on recently I could believe it.

Just had a fan on Humberside telling us he goes to watch training etc and Agar is a great coach and it's all bad luck and injuries to blame. I'd have crashed the car if I'd been the one driving home.

You mean like 3-11

Was it EXPRO?

He isn't good enough, I agree. His interchanges make no sense and never have done.

No but there was a faint sound of Greensleeves playing in the background.

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Have a read of some of the comments made about something that most people on this thread didn't even see.

No I have more win ratio in the 40% region

...tries scored etc, tries let in etc, None of it good, but hey ho! we finished 6th last season, happy fecking days

Not happy days but we both know each others stance. We both want the same thing but you want it now and I am being a little more patient

Can't agree with his comments about bad luck, but I've heard the bit about Agar being a good technical coach from some sources who ought to know what they're talking about. Makes it even more puzzling that he can't hack it as head coach really.

Do'nt think so, no mention of islands or sheds.

Only one question from me did he or didn't he flick the V's at the fans ???

It's weird. Some may say his recruitment? I'd say he got that spot on. Some might say his man motivation skills? But the effort of the players contradict that. Technical? Who knows, I'd say tactically he is awful and that's where he fails big time.

I totally respect your stance, I am just fed up with the situation

This is the baffling thing as we are possibly the worst "technical" team in the league.

I'd totally agree with that..

My patience ran out a long time ago, Paul. Long before last season, in fact.

People give a little too much credit to last season, I think. We finished 6th but had it not been for Tom Briscoe in the derby and a very lucky penalty against Crusaders we could have lost seven of the last eight.

Had it not being for Radford's red card we might have finished 4th... Ifs and buts.

Lets be truthfully honest here when was the last time we watched hull play good rugby consistantly? It seems quite a long time back for mine! I dont mean one off games either, i mean consistantly.