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| Postives for me.
We have a some very key players out.
But we won 2 games that we lost at the start of the season.
Big test will be Saints, not even the result but how we peform.
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"Quite possibly, but where? I'm a big fan of Whiting, but I'm not quite convinced he'd do the job at stand-off. If Manu and Lauaki are back for Saints could you really justify leaving out one of our backrowers for it?
He's looked good with the ball, but he's every bit the defensive liability as Hall with his decision-making and inability under the high ball. He's another who's not learning and improving certain aspects of his game IMO yet most seem either blind to this or ignore it and prefer to lay into the usual suspects instead.
Certainly will.'"
So if Briscoe and Hall arent learning...whos fault is it or can the person only see it it 1 player.
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| Quote ="Dave K."Postives for me.
We have a some very key players out.'"
Yep, but so have both opponents TBF.
Quote ="Dave K."But we won 2 games that we lost at the start of the season.'"
Can only be a good thing.
Quote ="Dave K."Big test will be Saints, not even the result but how we peform.'"
Dead right.
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| Quote ="fc baldy"So if Briscoe and Hall arent learning...whos fault is it or can the person only see it it 1 player.'"
I'm pretty sure that Agar doesnt tell them both to tackle the wrong man or drop the ball.
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| Quote ="fc baldy"So if Briscoe and Hall arent learning...whos fault is it or can the person only see it it 1 player.'"
He's not the only one who seems to think that way though is he? And TBH, Hall really has not done himself any favours at all this year. I've backed him since he first emerged but quite frankly he's been poor for most of this season and I'm starting to question whether he's ever going to deliver.
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| Quote ="Dave K."I'm pretty sure that Agar doesnt tell them both to tackle the wrong man or drop the ball.'"
No, but he (and the rest of the coaching staff) really should have worked on their positional play enough to see some improvement by now. And with you mentioning dropping the ball, Briscoe should also have been given plenty of practice to get better under the high ball too.
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| Well, that was better than last year.
O'Meley played a shedload of minutes today - what a warrior he is. A horrible completion rate in the first half and not fantastic quality, but once we cut the errors out we looked pretty comfortable. Good effort by Dowes today as well. And better from Tansey who's been a bit ordinary of late. Lovely interception from Long and quite funny at the end when he packed down with the Cas forwards.
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"No, but he (and the rest of the coaching staff) really should have worked on their positional play enough to see some improvement by now. And with you mentioning dropping the ball, Briscoe should also have been given plenty of practice to get better under the high ball too.'"
I'm sorry but whatever you think of Agar and the coaching staff they will be practising these things.
In fact I know they do
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Well, that was better than last year.
=#0000FFO'Meley played a shedload of minutes today - what a warrior he is. A horrible completion rate in the first half and not fantastic quality, but once we cut the errors out we looked pretty comfortable. Good effort by Dowes today as well. And better from Tansey who's been a bit ordinary of late. Lovely interception from Long and quite funny at the end when he packed down with the Cas forwards.
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Agar's just been on Blunderside and said he played 67 minutes and could probably have managed 77 if needed. Tremendous signing.
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| Quote ="Dave K."I'm sorry but whatever you think of Agar and the coaching staff they will be practising these things.
In fact I know they do
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In that case there are only two possible conclusions...
1. We're doing the wrong drills.
2. Hall and Briscoe are as stupid as stumps.
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| Quote ="Kosh"Agar's just been on Blunderside and said he played 67 minutes and could probably have managed 77 if needed. Tremendous signing.'"
we have to be more careful with him IMO.
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| Quote ="Dave K."I'm sorry but whatever you think of Agar and the coaching staff they will be practising these things.
In fact I know they do
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But my point is that they're obviously doing something wrong as it's not getting across to the players in question.
Would you not agree that neither Hall nor Briscoe have shown any improvement in their defensive decision-making and positional play over the last 2 years? That really should not be the case.
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| Quote ="Kosh"Agar's just been on Blunderside and said he played 67 minutes and could probably have managed 77 if needed. Tremendous signing.'"
Absolutely boiling and couldn't believe it - came off for Sam on about 25 minutes then seemingly 5 minutes later came back on for Dowes. I've got used to seeing him come back on on 55 minutes and rip into the opposition so felt a bit cheated
Oh, and a big rap to the FC away support today. Massive following
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| Quote ="Kosh"In that case there are only two possible conclusions...
1. We're doing the wrong drills.
2. Hall and Briscoe are as stupid as stumps.'"
Precisely. I just don't accept that they can't learn anything no matter what the coaching staff have tried. The only other possibility is that they won't listen, in which case they should be moved on.
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| Quote ="Sheldon"we have to be more careful with him IMO.'"
It may be that with no game next week he played longer than might otherwise have been the case.
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| Frustrating to concede late tries again but it's a fine win and given the conditions I don't think we can be too hard on the team for the lapses.
Our first back to back away wins in just over a year.
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| I was once again impressed by how together the team felt, always congratulating, consoling and backing each other up, it was great to see today
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| upto 4th only 2 points behind saints , agar out thats what i say
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| It was boiling..Fantastic following from the faithful..
Brilliant moment when Longy packed down with Cas
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| Well done to the Faithful today, atmosphere made it feel like we were at home!!
Well played lads, up to fourth and some big players to come back in for us!
Bring on Saints!!!!
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| I was sweating buckets for the last ten minutes,don`t know if it was the weather,or the tension.
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| shame we conceded the last two tries, gave a closer scoreline than the game was, but in that heat we can hardly complain and both teams deserve a lot of credit
we need to keep better ball control, maybe it was the heat at times, teams like saints will punish us more if we cough up possession in our own half like today
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| Quote ="Kosh"Did the same again today according to Blunderside with the same result.
TBF I think he suffers the same as whoever plays on the other wing with our sliding defence not sliding properly.'"
Rubbish, Cas had about 4 on 1 and he went to try and pat it down but missed, if he had stayed on his wing it wouldn't have made any difference.
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| Good result, not a great performance, but in that heat, they are all warriors and deserve priase. Didn't think Briscoe was that bad, but would have to re watch to see.
Hall put a monster tackle in near the close to seal it!
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| Quote ="Mr. Zucchini Head"Rubbish, Cas had about 4 on 1 and he went to try and pat it down but missed, if he had stayed on his wing it wouldn't have made any difference.'"
So what I said in the second part of my post then?
Assuming we're talking about the same incident, both Blunderside and KCFM had it down as a defensive misread. Just goes to show how things appear different to different people.
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