What a good idea! Now, where's my pen?

Hudge needs some help cutting the pitch tomorrow if you're around.

Is it possible to be dragged out of an imaginary mire?

What a good idea. Now, where's me spade?

So which argument have i lost???

I'm not even arguing about anything, all i have stated is that it must have been fairly successful to have attracted 5000+ members.



I have no real interest in the scheme i just think its ever so funny watching all the usual silly arguments by the usual idiots, on bothe sides, in the same boring manner.

Why the rolling eyes?



Thought you just loved it? If you can, do it, really simply.

Rovers are £2.4m in debt. This is not imaginary. Download the accounts from Companies House and see for yourself. Better yet, order an independent credit report.



Here's a question for you. Why do Rovers need to get Club Rovers 2010 membership payments in in July 2009 and get season pass renewals done by mid August, when at FC we have a discounted period that ends on 31st December?

Finally, Rovers accounts to 30/11/2008 are due to be filed this week. If all is rosy, I'm sure they'll be posting a big profit and reduction in debt.

You seem ever so interested in the boring idiots.



Thought you'd gone 2 pages ago after your vigorous argument that the scheme was a roaring success was proven to be so full of holes Mick Crane would have been proud to wear it as a vest.

So how do you work that out??

The only fact is that there are 5000+ members. All your critisism of the scheme is based on guesswork and a few disgruntled airheads on here

Agreed.

I'm with the poster who said that if any such scheme means I lose my reserved seat I'll not go to the KC again. I will go and watch Fax and Barrow once a week instead.

I refer you to all my previous posts on this matter. Can't be bothered to reiterate, but in a few words:

Seats, loyalty, smack in the face, blackmail, no option, desperate short term solution, backfire, resentment, long term dissatisfaction.

The only fact out there is the 5000+ membership. On field performances will ultimately dictate the real success of the scheme.

Nope, didn't think you could manage it.

Ah well.

Plus they never sent the vouchers out for the £5 discount in the shop which was a listed benefit. Which expires on 30th Sept. Another retail and admin triumph. At least it avoids giving £25,000 away

Never been one to disappoint.

TBF Mrs B some of the terms stated in the brochure have changed anyway like the clause where you have to have paid in full for your 2010 pass by 30/9/09 to get the 2011 pass at 2008 price, so the £5 discount voucher peroid may have been extended.

There is no doubt it has been cobbled together very quickly and probably for the reasons most of us think. I've seen how both clubs operate and Hull are light years ahead in the way they conduct their business, but the scheme does have some merit imo, its just that it has been administered by a bunch of numpties.

Poor from you, Gordon. I know you're not thick so can only assume you are being deliberately obtuse. There are plenty of unsavoury facts about this scheme as well you know. Another fact being that on-field performances are irrelevant, as folk have already parted with their money for their membership and their passes and next season is 5 months away.

If they can limp through the closed season.

Question, if the money for the scheme and the passes has already been gathered in, how strong is next year's cash flow going to be? Will Rovers need credit?

Fair dos. I notice that the latest version of the brochure is version 10!

They're not daft. Plenty of sound business men on Rover's board.

Missed the point again.

On field performances are very relevant. If they have a season like say Hull have had this year pass sales for 2011 will likely suffer, whereas if they have a decent season all this nonsense and bad feeling you talk about will likely be forgotten. Success on the field will ultimately dictate how successful the membership scheme eventually is.

The rest of your questions involve a lot of guesswork and in your case probably hopes and aspirations

Do you think Rovers fans are more fickle than Hulls? Despite a shocking season last year our pass sales held up as they are expected to this year.
On field performances not a factor for us.

I do accept that thousands of new Rovers fans have joined on for the glory, however, their pass sales won't be increased by this scheme. People would have bought passes anyway, with or without the membership club. It's just that Rovers would not have had the extra £60 off them all upfront.

Or are you saying that this scheme has meant more new fans? Not sure how you can factually prove that




As a lying, boring airhead, I would be grateful, as you seem to know me so well, if you could inform me why I am disgruntled and to what I hope and aspire?

Well its just over 4500 today so maybe they are getting refunds?

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They haven't counted the 500+ that came in airmail from Australia yet. Big club is Rovers you know

I have joined the scheme but do understand that in these times some people will be upset at having to pay 60 quid up front in a short space of time. However one of the reasons for joining is that it freezes the cost of next seasons seasons pass to 2008 Prices which is 179 pounds , to me good value and you get discounts in the club shop thus saving more money.

If you trump up 60 quid your season pass for next season and 2011 is frozen at 2008 prices 179 quid otherwise I believe its 215 quid you have to pay. Plus you get discounts on the season shirt 10 pounds if only buying one which most supporters buy. So if you start to do the math then you can see you will start to get your 60 quid back quickly.