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| Quote ="Kosh"I'd walk into FC's squad at the moment.
They do a job, but they are a fair way short of being great. They just look great compared to what we have.
Hodgson is their key player rather than their halves.'"
Hmm, a solid back pairing and a creative full back, if only that was an option for FC.
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| Quote ="Standee"Hmm, a solid back pairing and a creative full back, if only that was an option for FC.
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Thing is with Brown,he was bloody awful in Aus.
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| Quote ="Standee"Hmm, a solid back pairing and a creative full back, if only that was an option for FC.
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They would be useless behind a beaten pack, in the first five games of this season our pack competed and our very average half backs did enough to get us over the line, when the injuries hit and our pack stopped competing thats when our halves stopped being usefull not to mention us having to split them up on numerous occasions.
And a few are saying this isn't Browns side but he was appointed before the end of last season and Huds made 11 new signings this year go figure.
he might not have signed them all but i bet he had a good few tapes on the new signings and a full off season with the team.
I would also like to see what he would do with the injury list we have.
Not doubting he is one of the top coaches in the game but you cant coach without the talent available and Huds have not had anywhere near the injuries we have had.
But of course thats the coaches fault.
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| Quote ="fc baldy"Thing is with Brown,he was bloody awful in Aus.'" mmm I am wondering if he is another Peter Sharp but i suppose only time will tell.
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| Quote ="rich1977"They would be useless behind a beaten pack, in the first five games of this season our pack competed and our very average half backs did enough to get us over the line, when the injuries hit and our pack stopped competing thats when our halves stopped being usefull not to mention us having to split them up on numerous occasions.
And a few are saying this isn't Browns side but he was appointed before the end of last season and Huds made 11 new signings this year go figure.
he might not have signed them all but i bet he had a good few tapes on the new signings and a full off season with the team.
I would also like to see what he would do with the injury list we have.
Not doubting he is one of the top coaches in the game but you cant coach without the talent available and Huds have not had anywhere near the injuries we have had.
But of course thats the coaches fault.
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No team whoever the coach is can cope with the luck we have had. Even the mighty Saints are having a bit of trouble aren't they?
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| Quote ="airliebird58"No team whoever the coach is can cope with the luck we have had. Even the mighty Saints are having a bit of trouble aren't they?'"
Cannot argue with that at all. Saints miss a handfull of big game players and struggle big time.
No coincidence.
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| Quote ="knocker norton"Cannot argue with that at all. Saints miss a handfull of big game players and struggle big time.
No coincidence.'"
id be quite happy to be struggling big time and sitting 2nd in the league and making the CC semi's
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| Quote ="UllFC"id be quite happy to be struggling big time and sitting 2nd in the league and making the CC semi's'"
End of the season is when it matters though. Injuries kicked in late in the season. Semi final losers and no grand final will make it a poor year for Saints...IMO.
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"Whereas we ignored his come-and-get-me.'"
We played a 'blinder'
Folkes CV
9 years Head coach at Canterbury.
2 Grand Finals
5 times in Play off series
Dally M coach of the year 2004.
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Richard Agar
Featherstone Lions
England Students coach
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We picked Agar!!
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| Quote ="weaver93"We played a 'blinder'
Folkes CV
9 years Head coach at Canterbury.
2 Grand Finals
5 times in Play off series
Dally M coach of the year 2004.
vs
Richard Agar
Featherstone Lions
England Students coach
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Yorkshire Academy (Head Coach)
York City Knights (Head Coach)
Assistant coach:
Featherstone Rovers
We picked Agar!!
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This agar thing is getting boring now,im sure when the board feels the need to get rid of him they will,at the end of the day whos going to listen to what people on here think.
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| Quote ="weaver93"We played a 'blinder'
Folkes CV
9 years Head coach at Canterbury.
2 Grand Finals
5 times in Play off series
Dally M coach of the year 2004.
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Richard Agar
Featherstone Lions
England Students coach
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Yorkshire Academy (Head Coach)
York City Knights (Head Coach)
Assistant coach:
Featherstone Rovers
We picked Agar!!
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| Quote ="wolfie"This agar thing is getting boring now,im sure when the board feels the need to get rid of him they will,at the end of the day whos going to listen to what people on here think.'"
Thank God for that, because we would have a problem then
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| good to see the Agar apologists out in force.
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"So folkes didn't serve an apprenticeship then???????? The 2 are not comparable, who's to say agar won't have a similar cv in 10 years time? Nobody can and nobody on here has even come close to doing what agar has done in his apprenticeship so have no experience to judge.'"
He did serve an apprenticeship for 2 years.
He won the reserve grade Grand Final in the NRL in his second year.
HTH.
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| Quote ="Standee"good to see the Agar apologists out in force.
pathetic'"
Thats a real poor comment IMO. Some people arent as negative as you so become blinkered? Pro sport aint that black and white (pun intented).
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| Quote ="Standee"good to see the Agar apologists out in force.
pathetic'"
Are there a few more than you thought there would be?
This message board is a small snapshot of Hull FC fans and their opinions, and cannot be used as a barometer of popular thought.
Time will tell who ends up being right as with most things.
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| Quote ="weaver93"He did serve an apprenticeship for 2 years.
He won the reserve grade Grand Final in the NRL in his second year.
HTH.'" Not really, folkes has 10 years on agar in first grade coaching.
The 2 are still not comparable, why did huddersfield choose an inexperienced coach over him? Maybe the same reason we did! HTH!!
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| Chuck Terry Matterson into the equation as well !
Seems to me a few teams are over achieving given their resources.
Regardless of results they seem intent on entertaining, all season we seemed content with grinding out wins - attacking play non-existent.
Massive recruitment in the pack & only one ageing ball player recruited shows we will be sticking with 5 drives & a kick next year. They ought to be better drives & kicks than this year admittedly.
Frankly quite envious of virtually every team in SL who play with ambition & rather more determination than we seem ablle to muster.
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| Quote ="al283"Chuck Terry Matterson into the equation as well !
Seems to me a few teams are over achieving given their resources.
Regardless of results they seem intent on entertaining, all season we seemed content with grinding out wins - attacking play non-existent.
Massive recruitment in the pack & only one ageing ball player recruited shows we will be sticking with 5 drives & a kick next year. They ought to be better drives & kicks than this year admittedly.
Frankly quite envious of virtually every team in SL who play with ambition & rather more determination than we seem ablle to muster.'" our backs aren't the problem, we showed against rovers if our pack can get on top we can play some good rugby, were just too weak up top.
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| The title of this thread still cracks me up, 10 pages later...
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"So folkes didn't serve an apprenticeship then???????? The 2 are not comparable, who's to say agar won't have a similar cv in 10 years time? Nobody can and nobody on here has even come close to doing what agar has done in his apprenticeship so have no experience to judge.'"
Sadly his apprentiship has been under sub standard coaches too which isnt the best. He has matured into an average first team coach at best and yes im writing him off after 1 season.
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"Sadly his apprentiship has been under sub standard coaches too which isnt the best. He has matured into an average first team coach at best and yes im writing him off after 1 season.'" that would be a mistake IMHO. If 10 games into next season were still no good I will agree that he's out of his depth. But this season I think it's most of our players that are out of there depth.
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| Quote ="airliebird58"Are there a few more than you thought there would be?
This message board is a small snapshot of Hull FC fans and their opinions, and cannot be used as a barometer of popular thought.
Time will tell who ends up being right as with most things.'"
From people I speak to who do not frequent these forums it seems the majority think Agar is out of his depth, including some fairly well respected former players, although one or two of them have alluded to the fact that it may be Sharp's interference that is causing issues too.
Time will tell, I just hope we have something left to play for if and when the decision is made.
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"that would be a mistake IMHO. If 10 games into next season were still no good I will agree that he's out of his depth. But this season I think it's most of our players that are out of there depth.'"
But he could argue that with so many new players in his squad they are taking time to gel.
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| Quote ="Standee"From people I speak to who do not frequent these forums it seems the majority think Agar is out of his depth, including some fairly well respected former players, although one or two of them have alluded to the fact that it may be Sharp's interference that is causing issues too.
Time will tell, I just hope we have something left to play for if and when the decision is made.'"
Nail, head, hammer for me.
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