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| Quote ="Kosh"He's an average squad player, behind Whiting and Lee by some distance IMO. We can do without him quite comfortably.'"
I'd agree, i do however think that his performances this season have justifed him starting. I also think that some on here are going way over the top with the negativity around his performance vs Leeds. He played opposite Senior who was on fire as Clarky said. I also think that Raynor was at fault more so that Horne for anything in the game but he seems to avoid any critiscism.
Graeme probably shouldnt be at the club for next year but for this year i think he is doing a great job in the centre for us. (he even put his winger away a couple of times)
I'd still rather play Hall there but Whiting should not be used as a centre, he should play at 13 or even 6.
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"I'd agree, i do however think that his performances this season have justifed him starting. I also think that some on here are going way over the top with the negativity around his performance vs Leeds. He played opposite Senior who was on fire as Clarky said. I also think that Raynor was at fault more so that Horne for anything in the game but he seems to avoid any critiscism.
Graeme probably shouldnt be at the club for next year but for this year i think he is doing a great job in the centre for us. (he even put his winger away a couple of times)
I'd still rather play Hall there but Whiting should not be used as a centre, he should play at 13 or even 6.'"
Pretty much agree with this. I think Raynor's all round game is nowhere near as good as before the toe injury, when he was probably the best winger in the comp.
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| Quote ="Raggytash"Pretty much agree with this. I think Raynor's all round game is nowhere near as good as before the toe injury, when he was probably the best winger in the comp.'"
Will be interesting to see what happens with him. Think he will come back stronger next season but with Calderwood and Briscoe as options on the wings too he may come in for some tought competition when/if we ever get a fully fit squad.
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| Quote ="Kosh"He's an average squad player, behind Whiting and Lee by some distance IMO. We can do without him quite comfortably.'"
I disagree, in the centres there is little to choose between Horne and Whiting. In the backrow then Horne is better although in the 6/13 role Whiting is better.
Up until recently Horne has played fairly well although against Senior he was left wanting, not the first or last player though in that respect. There is not room for both him and Whiting though and I would probably go with Whiting, just!
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| Quote ="The Key"G.Horne is someone who brings very limited attacking abilities and large inconsistancies in defence to the table. Imo he is a shocking centre and its ridiculous that Whiting was dropped for him, and it will be be the same if Hall doesn't replace him when he comes back from Widnes'"
Couldn't agree with you more. Why can't the coaches see it?
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| Quote ="PAUL M"I disagree, in the centres there is little to choose between Horne and Whiting. In the backrow then Horne is better although in the 6/13 role Whiting is better.
Up until recently Horne has played fairly well although against Senior he was left wanting, not the first or last player though in that respect. There is not room for both him and Whiting though and I would probably go with Whiting, just!'"
I think defensively he was left wanting but I think he did well going forward. Does that mean Senior is also wanting in defense?
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| Quote ="downtheante"I think defensively he was left wanting but I think he did well going forward. Does that mean Senior is also wanting in defense?'"
Guess so.
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| If we didn't have so many injuries he wouldn't be playing. he was supposed to be going to donny on loan before the season started. We need to trim these type of players from the squad
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"If we didn't have so many injuries he wouldn't be playing. he was supposed to be going to donny on loan before the season started. We need to trim these type of players from the squad'"
Agree, but on the flip side its beneficial having them about when we get a dozen injuries.
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"Agree, but on the flip side its beneficial having them about when we get a dozen injuries.'"
If we have a squad to cover for the worst possible scenario we'll continue with an average squad
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"If we have a squad to cover for the worst possible scenario we'll continue with an average squad'"
I agree, but we keep getting hit with worse possible scenarios.
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"I agree, but we keep getting hit with worse possible scenarios.'"
A good point well made - in answer to a good point well made.
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"I agree, but we keep getting hit with worse possible scenarios.'"
I'd stilll rather go into the season with a squad capable of winning the competition if we get a bit of luck
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| Quote ="Smiggs"Do you honestly think at present we'd be a better team without him in it, because I don't. I can appreciate some of your concerns about him, but I can't see anyone better at the club in his position. He is, as ever our leading try scorer and nobody at our club gets over the try line more consistantly than him.'"
I see what you are saying, but if thats the case there is no competition for places and players are in a comfort zone knowing they will not be dropped.
The season has been a right off since the end of May yet the coach doesn't try anything new from a tactics point of view or doesn't blood fringe / academy players irrespective of no relegation.
Without going over old ground, if Yeaman could pass / was willing to pass, his wing man would be the leading try scorer.
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| Quote ="Mild mannered Janitor"I see what you are saying, but if thats the case there is no competition for places and players are in a comfort zone knowing they will not be dropped.
The season has been a right off since the end of May yet the coach doesn't try anything new from a tactics point of view or doesn't blood fringe / academy players irrespective of no relegation.
Without going over old ground, if Yeaman could pass / was willing to pass, his wing man would be the leading try scorer.'"
yeamo's a greedy git!!cost us a few tries this year i reckon.
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| Quote ="Mild mannered Janitor"I see what you are saying, but if thats the case there is no competition for places and players are in a comfort zone knowing they will not be dropped.
The season has been a right off since the end of May yet the coach doesn't try anything new from a tactics point of view or doesn't blood fringe / academy players irrespective of no relegation.
Without going over old ground, if Yeaman could pass / was willing to pass, his wing man would be the leading try scorer.'"
He did the same last year. When Agar tool control he had the chance to experiment because he had no pressure as the league campaign was already seen as a whitewash. He didnt do it once in the league, in fact he made it worse
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| Quote ="jimmyfivebellies"yeamo's a greedy git!!cost us a few tries this year i reckon.'"
I don't think he's greedy as such, I just think he's not aware of what's going on around him or alive to possibilities that come up. Nowhere to be seen when Houghton made that break, for instance.
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| Quote ="Kosh"I don't think he's greedy as such, I just think he's not aware of what's going on around him or alive to possibilities that come up. Nowhere to be seen when Houghton made that break, for instance.'"
And for all he is crticised on here by many, the only one backing that break up was Lee Radford.
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| Quote ="Mild mannered Janitor"And for all he is crticised on here by many, the only one backing that break up was Lee Radford.'"
Although TBF any support play that requires a wide-angle lens to get the supporting player in the same frame as the ball carrier probably doesn't count.
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| wonder if he takes up the offer to ply his trade at cas next season
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| Quote ="wolfie"wonder if he takes up the offer to ply his trade at cas next season'"
He'd be daft not to.
Always had a feeling he'd end up there one day.
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| Quote ="wolfie"wonder if he takes up the offer to ply his trade at cas next season'" Heres hoping, although I heard it was wakey!
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"Heres hoping, although I heard it was wakey!'"
naa its cas
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| Either will do for me !! Just getting rid of Mr Graeme I can play many positions but I'm not good at any of them Horne is a move in the right direction.
1 down 8 or 9 to go !!!
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| Quote ="ash4hullfc"He'd be daft not to.
Always had a feeling he'd end up there one day.'"
where do you think kingy will end up?
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