The only other occasion that springs to mind was the deliberate dismantling of the 1991 Premiership winning team. That has very close parallels to what has happened over the last few seasons.

The Liverpool teams of the 70s and 80s never rested on their laurels when winning everything.

Whe they won the league they would go out and buy the best players available to keep eveyone on their toes.

I'm not saying we have done that, but as you say, we reached a high level and have just back almost happy with that level instead of kicking on.

There was a reason for that though, Brian Smith had almost bankrupted the club so we had to sell of players to pay off creditors. (One of whom, if I recall correctly, was HMRC?)

You ask who appointed me mouthpiece for fans because I replied to your post with an opinion then tell me I am insulting you

I really have no intention or desire to spar as you put it.

The decline for me relates to the inability to press on, evolve and improve upon what we achieved (cup win and runners up in league). We have, as stated in prev post, rested on our laurels and taken our eye off the ball so to speak.

As Kosh states this has similarities to the 91 side, i hope we don't end up going down that road again!

Our board are like the elders of Troy...we have let the gaurd down allowed the enemy in to the back yard and we are suffering for it! '"

I think it's probably worth pointing out that my view of us being in decline is in no way linked to the success of Hull KR, I don't really care what goes on East of the river, I just want Hull FC to be successful, and we aren't.

Lets face facts, the CC win and CC final appearance have diverted attention from some very poor seasons.

I don't think I ever knew the details, or if I did I've forgotten them. I just remember feeling betrayed at the time as the players we all thought would take us onwards and upwards were shipped out.

in 1991 we never had an A grade licence though

Most all clubs go through various periods of decline.

Thats life.

For me (performance wise) the whole of SL is in decline at the moment.

We did have faithful fans though

Are we, both play better rugby

By better do you mean more entertaing to watch (which I agree with), because the table would suggest at this point they are not better.

We can sit here all you want and say "we've had worse times"

You can thow Lloyd in the mix. David Latham et al.

But fact is, we have the most expensive squad ever at the club. One of the strongest, lined with internationals, medal winners, state of origin etc, yet we are cack.

The days of being rubbish and Wigan/Saints/Leeds d!cking us by 60 was the days we fielded the likes of Steve Durham, Neil Turner, Steve Craven, Andy Mighty, Rob Danby, Mike Dixon, Kev Gray , Shane Endacott, Mark Hewitt, Johan Windley, Rich Wilson, Leroy Mckenzie

The last 8 names played at the "potentially last ever Hull game" at Central park in 1995, score 60 - 6

dont konw where you make that asumption that they have not being going lone they have been pass holders for the past 18 years steve doesnt seem happy with the way kH and JR are runnig things at the club and nothing to do with where you are in the table!

i would take Mark Hewitt over Chris Thorman.

I'll send raggy tash a text and tell him he can come back as long as he grows his porn star tache back

when was thormans best game,
bradford away?
i would take that performance every week

probably leeds away in preseason.

Huddersfield v Hull 2008

Those who say its not bad or that bad because its been worse in the past, and there are clubs in a worse position than us are a joke.
First off, in the past have we had a top class ground, with regular 5 figure crowds, with one of the best community projects in UK sport, tons coming in through merch etc etc? Also, does it have to be the worst in our history for it to be a problem?
Secondly, why does it matter if other clubs have it worse? I couldnt care less who is better or worse, what matters to me is the club I support and at the moment its awful.
We have a board who make mistakes every season it seems, distances themselves from the fans (even slag them off I have heard in the past) and who accept mediocrity. We have a totally inept coaching staff. What type of coaching staff manages to prepare a team that gets knackered after one half, despite not having a game for 2 weeks prior? Its was 3 weeks since a game of high intensity. Our line was awful against Wire. I couldnt believe how flat it was. In defence, the line was lazy and slow which led to three tries on the overlap.
Then we have a set of players where alot of them are either crap, inconsistant or cba. We have few players who try their hearts out. A few of them are backs who barely get service, and in the forwards the liks of Lee and Burnett are young and arent superb players (although good and developing).
Then we have a youth system that year on year signs up talent from the Hull area and in the past couple of years, from beyond. They then get to reserve level and break into the first team and they become average SL players. Name me a top player that we have produced since Hornes debut 10 years ago? Not including Briscoe who hasnt had enough time to prove it yet, the only full level international (not including the crappy England A sides of the past) we have produced is Yeaman iirc. Thats shocking imo.

Boycotts are a waste of time unless, in our case, there were about 6k or 7k home fans at leats not turning up, with the majority making a protest outside the ground while the game is going on. Thats never going to happen. Theres all this talk about protests yet theres been ample opportunity to do this in the stands. Leeds is a perfect chance: large open terrace, Sky cameras etc. Yet I bet there wont be a single banner in sight, with the odd 'sack the board' chant.
Personally I've got to a point where I dont care much about rugby anymore, so not someone who wants to start this sort of things. Theres only two reasons I go: because I love going to professional sports matches and I refuse to pay the prices Leeds United charge for L1 football. Once they get promoted (and they dont put the prices up much higher) it will be bye bye to Hull FC for me

All sat in the stand

HTH

FWIW if we had the team below, week in week out we would be top 2

Tony
Calderwood
Whiting
Yeaman
Raynor
Horne
Thorman
Dowes
Berrigan
Cusack
Tickle
Manu
Washbrook

Lee
Thacks
King
Luaki

But we havnt been able to field anything like it, so to be still in the playoffs i think is not too bad. Wait and see what we do with these players back.

you are as fickle as fook mate,you can't say they aren't trying,we are just not good enough at the moment.

Is he here? we missed him yet.

We have had injuries in the past you know

Still in the playoffs?

What, like Michael Martin is still in Parliament?, as "it's a matter of time".

you must be joking



sure thats a decent enough playoff team, but its never a top2 team even without 1 injury all season