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| Quote ="Birstalltiger"If any Hull fan dosnt believe that Cas was robbed read every paper and tele text ask any nutrual and even Sky people said the ref was bad for us.
We will beat you easy when you come our that i am sure and your style Rugby is the worst in Super League.'"
And yet we've won the majority of our games and only lost others by close margins.... go figure.
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| Quote ="Gaslight"Yes he did, watch the game again and listen out for when Cas recover the ball, on plenty of occasions he calls "one" not "zero" - that is blatant cheating more then anything else.'"
I remember a couple of the incidents that you're referring to. I remember them because I paid particular attention to the call at the time to make sure that Bentham wasn't incorrectly calling a zero tackle after Cas had recovered the ball. Fortunately, he knew the rules and correctly called 'first' on each occasion. 'Zero' should only be called when the team surrendering possession make a mistake that would ordinarily result in a scrum. This wasn't the case with the couple of incidents I can remember, with both being Cas players getting to a loose ball that has gone backwards from a Hull player.
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| Quote ="Birstalltiger"and your style Rugby is the worst in Super League.'" agree
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| Quote ="Birstalltiger"If any Hull fan dosnt believe that Cas was robbed read every paper and tele text ask any nutrual and even Sky people said the ref was bad for us.
We will beat you easy when you come our that i am sure and your style Rugby is the worst in Super League.'"
Boo-hoo. Baby.
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| Quote ="Birstalltiger"If any Hull fan dosnt believe that Cas was robbed read every paper and tele text ask any nutrual and even Sky people said the ref was bad for us.
We will beat you easy when you come our that i am sure and your style Rugby is the worst in Super League.'"
Wahhh
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| Quote ="Birstalltiger"If any Hull fan dosnt believe that Cas was robbed read every paper and tele text ask any nutrual and even Sky people said the ref was bad for us.
We will beat you easy when you come our that i am sure and your style Rugby is the worst in Super League.'"
Bless.
Toddle on, son. You're embarrassing yourself.
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| Quote ="Birstalltiger"If any Hull fan dosnt believe that Cas was robbed read every paper and tele text ask any nutrual and even Sky people said the ref was bad for us.
We will beat you easy when you come our that i am sure and your style Rugby is the worst in Super League.'"
That settles it then, you should be awarded the 2 league points.
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| Quote ="Birstalltiger"If any Hull fan dosnt believe that Cas was robbed read every paper and tele text ask any nutrual and even Sky people said the ref was bad for us.
We will beat you easy when you come our that i am sure and your style Rugby is the worst in Super League.'"
Who cares what the papers or teletext say and as for sky they couldn't have been any more bias towards you if they tried, almost to the point of embarassment.
At the end of the day the score board doesn't lie.
You lost get over it
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| wtf did radford and thorman contribute to the team yesterday??? think sum ppl are a little harsh on g.horne after he struggled yesterday cant be easy playing out ov position,calderwood defence is impressive and like some have said i wish the rest of the team played with as much vigour,is there any position richard horne cannot play at ..the mans a class act ,washbrook had a decent game i thought,tickles handling was poor most ov the game but still puts himself in places to score tries and make breaks,houghton had an outstanding game,yeaman???didnt see much ov wot he`s capable ov really,r,whiting...glad he`s back in..v.good most ov the 80 mins especially with calderwood a good partnership,lee...proved his doubters very wrong..played well i thought,manu upto him getting crock played ok,dowes..always a grafter and a good one too,mike burnett...top drawer this lad,thacks did his job well,cusack...great try..and a good go forward too.
just my opinion that.
ref was poor for both teams
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| robbed?
there was 15 minutes left?
you was decent and we was poor and yet we still beat you,
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| Just what I wanted from Houghton, the type of performance we all know he is capable of. He turned the game no question and Washbrook also looke back to his best whilst Calderwood was again one of our best players.
I am not sure what Tickle does to warrant being selected these days and Thorman was fooking shocking too.
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| Quote ="Birstalltiger"If any Hull fan dosnt believe that Cas was robbed read every paper and tele text ask any nutrual and even Sky people said the ref was bad for us.
We will beat you easy when you come our that i am sure and your style Rugby is the worst in Super League.'" If you take notice of Sky people you get to be daft has them ..its ok throwing the ball about but you have to score points We scored 24 your lot socred 16 that make us winners by 8 point it also said that on tele text ps the best way to enjoy Sky sport is to turn the sound OFF ..they know F__K ALL
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| Quote ="Gaslight"Not only did Bentham make a host of shocking decisions (Hull scrum instead of a Cas penalty when Calderwood pushed Shenton, Hull penalty instead of a Cas penalty when Calderwood was all over Wainwright, gave a try from 3 forward passes and a knock on in the build up).
But he also, on no fewer then 5 occasions, started Cas on the 1st tackle instead of the zero after collecting the ball after FC knock ons - how can you explain that one down to tinted specs?
How could we also forget the constant interference from the play the ball from Hull - Cas should have been awarded a lot more then just the 1 penalty, in fact it should have been a lot closer to 10.
Cas had plenty of chances to win the game, but ultimately not taking them chances and Bentham being atrocious cost Cas the game.'"
So we played to the ref for once. If you can get away with it, do it.
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| Quote ="Gaslight"Not only did Bentham make a host of shocking decisions (Hull scrum instead of a Cas penalty when Calderwood pushed Shenton, Hull penalty instead of a Cas penalty when Calderwood was all over Wainwright, gave a try from 3 forward passes and a knock on in the build up).
But he also, on no fewer then 5 occasions, started Cas on the 1st tackle instead of the zero after collecting the ball after FC knock ons - how can you explain that one down to tinted specs?
How could we also forget the constant interference from the play the ball from Hull - Cas should have been awarded a lot more then just the 1 penalty, in fact it should have been a lot closer to 10.
Cas had plenty of chances to win the game, but ultimately not taking them chances and Bentham being atrocious cost Cas the game.'"
I may stand corrected here, I believe the rule is a zero tackle if it was on the last; eg if Hull knocked on on the 4th tackle Cas pick it up and go beyond the advantage, that counts as 1st tackle, if Hull knock on after the 5th ie last tackle it is zero as it would have been a turn over.
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| Quote ="me 'n' our kid"I may stand corrected here, I believe the rule is a zero tackle if it was on the last; eg if Hull knocked on on the 4th tackle Cas pick it up and go beyond the advantage, that counts as 1st tackle, if Hull knock on after the 5th ie last tackle it is zero as it would have been a turn over.'"
It's from any knock on not resulting in a scrum isn't it? Or that's what it usually seems to be during other games, oh well as long as Bentham doesn't ref Cas again this year (he was shocking v Wakey too, but so were Cas )
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| Quote ="Gaslight" oh well as long as Bentham doesn't ref Cas again this year '"
What excuse will you be offering if you get beat and he's not the ref?
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| Quote ="Gaslight"It's from any knock on not resulting in a scrum isn't it?
Or that's what it usually seems to be during other games, oh well as long as Bentham doesn't ref Cas again this year (he was shocking v Wakey too, but so were Cas
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Make of this what you will:
Sixth tackle 7. (a) A team in possession of the ball shall be allowed five successive play-the-balls. A handover shall occur AFTER the fifth tackle in the following circumstances.
i. The team is tackled a sixth time.
ii. The team in possession commits an accidental breach for which a scrum would normally be set.
iii. A player is held up in the opponent’s in-goal.
iv. The ball is kicked into touch on the full.
The handover will occur either at the point of the sixth tackle or where the scrum would normally be set - but, in the latter case, not closer than twenty metres from touch. The play-the-ball for this purpose shall not be counted for the purposes of the tackle count and shall operate as provided for in Law 10 of this Section.
Accidental breach "Zero Tackle" 7. (b) Where an accidental breach occurs (knock-on, forward pass) and possession changes hands, the following tackle will be a zero tackle, notwithstanding that the team gaining possession may have gained a territorial advantage.
Losing possession - intentionally - accidentally 8. A tackled player shall not intentionally part with the ball other than by bringing it into play in the prescribed manner. If, after being tackled, he accidentally loses possession, a scrum shall be formed except after the fifth play-the-ball.
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| Quote ="Gaslight"It's from any knock on not resulting in a scrum isn't it?
Or that's what it usually seems to be during other games, oh well as long as Bentham doesn't ref Cas again this year (he was shocking v Wakey too, but so were Cas
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In light of Sunday's game and the controversial penalty, you might also be interested in:
10 d The tackled player may not play the ball before the players effecting the tackle have had time to clear the ruck.
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| Quote ="Birstalltiger"If any Hull fan dosnt believe that Cas was robbed read every paper and tele text ask any nutrual and even Sky people said the ref was bad for us.
We will beat you easy when you come our that i am sure and your style Rugby is the worst in Super League.'"
my god sour grapes are buy 10000 get 100000 free in Cas this week
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| Quote ="HULLMAD"my god sour grapes are buy 10000 get 100000 free in Cas this week
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Oddly enough, I read RLE this morning, and I saw no mention of the ref being "bad".
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| One thing that gets said a lot in football is how valuable it is to get a win when you are not playing well.
That is the case here.
We have won 2 games playing poorly, yet both results will be priceless confidence wise.
It bodes well, we just need to try and sort things out to start playing better.
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| Cant blame Hull for ref being !! you got the rub of the green it happens in sport! good luck for rest of year, see you all at cas soon for round 3.
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| Quote ="tigerbaz"Cant blame Hull for ref being poop!! you got the rub of the green it happens in sport! good luck for rest of year, see you all at cas soon for round 3.'"
think that sums it up, swings and roundabouts come to mind too.
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