Fans ? boy I've heard it all now ! Not there obviously, I was so proud of the effort and with Moa pulling out and Ogre just doing one spell for me as just an average fan who goes everywhere and believes we need a new coach, a fine performance!

Well said Wilf.

Well said Wilf and sums it up for me as well. When the Dowes/Moa thing came over the tannoy just before the teams were about to run out i thought oh god my 30 nil drubbing looks like a good result

How forward were those passes to Charnley?

Just thinking that watching it on Sky then, I must admit I didn't notice today but they were forward.

I know how you feel about Agar etc but your post was fair and you called it how you saw it rather than just bashing the coach

No Mr Rugby Guru.

We should have won today, I would have accepted losing late on 13 v 13 but at 12 v 13 we should have scored at least one try or had Wigan playing from there own line.

Not panicking and coming up with costly errors. Sure they was a better effort today but you can't ignore the fact we just aint smart enough to win the big games or sometimes any game.

I beg to differ we could have made use of the extra man. We certainly shouldn't have found ourselves stretched out wide.

We were not stretched, watch the last try and we had equal numbers but Sharp drifted inwards and we got punished.

Bloody ell, just seen the tries on SL show. Their tries were well forward! Sharp definitely needs to be staying on his wing, starting to be come a regularity now.

even more dissapointed to find we got beat by two blatant forward passes!

Shockers.

You genuinely think you still have a season...??? Amazed......no chance of the league and dependent on drawing dross at home til the big boys arrive....really worth a season pass....????????

After all the c### you've given us this week about dobbo i really shouldn't be saying this......but.....but......but.....you where robbed, having seen the tries, especially the 1st Charnley try, how forward do they have to be, that was disgraceful.........what am i doing..

Says a lot about what we've had to put up with for the last 3 years that we have a 10 page thread rejoicing the fact that we've seen effort and commitment from the team.

Of course you take into fact that they got a try for Westerman dropping the ball over the tryline

Sad but true.

Factually incorrect.

We have a 10 page thread but it's not even close to being all about rejoicing.

That's why it's only your opinion.

I've been to every game this season, watched our team put in under the par performances except Crusaders. They've made baby step's forward making improvements left right and and yesterday I witnessed a class defensive performance against the Superleague Champions of 2010.

We still need to improve but things are going in the right direction. There were some ridiculous dubious decisions, but every player on that pitch had a bit of pride in them yesterday.

Well worth the travel across!!

A loss is still a loss even and if some of you havent noticed that one win in five games now and throw away a win against twelve men by giving needless penalties away is diabolical imo. The whole fecking lot of em from board to coach to payers want stringing up. Im not proud of this bunch of losers. Theyre a joke!

Another one who was not there then

Factually correct actually. The thread opened by rejoicing in us showing effort and commitment and is 10 pages long. The fact that people have taken it off track doesn't change either of those. It will, however, be factually incorrect when it clicks over onto 11 pages

I now a wins a win and a loss is a loss, but after our poor start we seem to have found a lot more passion, commitment and desire and we need to keep it going now! What will be interesting to me is as the season progresses how many other teams will get beat by 2 points against wigan!

It is a very unfrotunate circumstance to find ourselves in, being grateful that the paid employees turned up and did their job to th best of their collective abilities for once.

I can totally understand people being proud of the effort, what shouldn't be as evident is the amount of surprise being shown that the effort was forthcoming.

By the sounds of it nobody can question the effort from the players but it also sounded like we bottled it when J.Tomkins got sent off.