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| Quote ="rugbynut"You beat me to posting this mate - I'm not anti Rich Agar, I was going to point out what the board had done in the past.
Anyway, its an awkward question - if we're doing well and improving (cup semi final or final plus play offs) then he may well have deserved his extension. However, as others have pointed out, what would a top drawer Aussie coach get out of this team? ( [size=150would prefer Hull to sit top of the tree with an English coach at the helm though[/size )I'll leave it to the board to make this decision - I'm sitting on the fence!'"
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| Quote ="thehullwhitestar"Easy man !!! Only joking !!
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just like all the others who joke on here,you should be on stage like the rest of them.
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| lets be honest people wasnt asking for his head when kear left and we was unbeaten in 13 games or when sharpe left us
give the guy a chance he now has the team that he wants lets wait and see how he gets on then judge him
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| I dont think the club will do anything until September . Hopefully by then, They would have sounded out every available coach in Aus.
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| Quote ="wolfie"just like all the others who joke on here,you should be on stage like the rest of them.'"
Hey it's not even my argument, neither with you nor Agar. I hope that he turns out to be a great coach and maybe he will. I couldn't give a toss who knows him, likes him or even dislikes him. His recruitment has been absolutely superb and, upto now, we look like a very useful team and that will do for me.
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| Quote ="wolfie"just sat thinking about this season and the fact agar is out of contract at the end of the season,id say if he is offered a new contract it would have to be sorted sooner rather then later,off season was very good, signings very good, players released very good,we have had many debates about him been coach and that some would rather have a bigger name coach,its very early on and there is a long way to go but what would peoples thoughts be if we finished in the playoffs and got to a final or even won one,would people be happy for him to get a new contract or would they still feel we need a bigger name in charge?this is just to see what peoples thoughts are, its not to get into a slagging match about rich,also to remind people ive said all along if he was proved not be upto the job then he should go,but i just have a sneaky feeling we are heading for big things with this team.'"
No, I don't think we should be offering him a new contract any time soon
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"No, I don't think we should be offering him a new contract any time soon'"
couldnt've put it better myself
so, what exactly was plan B?
the question was raised at the 1st fans forum which was then skirted round in reply and bingo! there we have it, there is no plan B. Sean Long mustve been sat there rubbing his hands thinking "Jesus! i can name my price here when my 2 year deal is up"
Moore head coach and Long player coach by Derby day?
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| Give him a 10 year deal. He's useless.
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| Quote ="Ken Gréinjék"Give him a 10 year deal. He's useless.'"
well hes been here about 5 years so far and contributed knack all in my book
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| After the signings in the summer and the good start we had to the season i was just starting to have faith in agar but now todays result has just blown all that out the water, if we dont bounce back strongly next week then the few games after that cas,wigan and bradford could spell the end of agar
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| Get a grip. One bad game, one poor performance and it's the end of the world.
FFs, I'm glad I don't live in some of your houses.
You have one bad day at work where nothing goes right.....would you like to be sacked????????
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| Quote ="denbo63"Get a grip. One bad game, one poor performance and it's the end of the world.
FFs, I'm glad I don't live in some of your houses.
You have one bad day at work where nothing goes right.....would you like to be sacked????????'"
But the training has been poor and he thought we was flat this week, so why wasn't changes made, wrong team selection, bad subsututions today
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| Quote ="The Brother"But the training has been mickey poor and he thought we was flat this week, so why wasn't changes made, wrong team selection, bad subsututions today'"
Not disagreeing with one word of that mate.
All I'm saying is it's the first season he's had what we can call HIS team.
I'd rather judge Agar on his performance after another half dozen games.
Also one thing I would like to see an improvement (which to me anyway is the sign of a good coach) in getting the players 'up' up for the so called lesser teams than just the so called big guns. IMO of course.
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| The ironic thing is I prayed we would go for Nobby
He is a good PROVEN coach..
Oh well let's see what happens
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| Quote ="denbo63"Get a grip. One bad game, one poor performance and it's the end of the world.
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It's not so much the loss, it's the fact that we looked just like the side from last season that's got people worried. Right from the warm-up you could see that something was wrong - in fact my wife said to me that she thought we were going to lose at that point. No energy.
Depressing stuff.
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| Quote ="Kosh"It's not so much the loss, it's the fact that we looked just like the side from last season that's got people worried. Right from the warm-up you could see that something was wrong - in fact my wife said to me that she thought we were going to lose at that point. No energy.
Depressing stuff.'"
Simply thought by turning up 2 points were in the bag and obviously got shown their arruses !!!!
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| Quote ="denbo63"Not disagreeing with one word of that mate.
All I'm saying is it's the first season he's had what we can call HIS team.
I'd rather judge Agar on his performance after another half dozen games.
Also one thing I would like to see an improvement (which to me anyway is the sign of a good coach) in getting the players 'up' up for the so called lesser teams than just the so called big guns. IMO of course.'"
It is the coach who picks the team, and clearly Horney was not even fit so how can he get up for it..The book has to stop with aGAR...Now I am gutted because I want Agar to succeed and be great, but his selections are still of the mark same as last season
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| Point taken. However another test of his coaching abilities will be to lift the team for fridays game. Test of character and all that.
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| Quote ="Kosh"It's not so much the loss, it's the fact that we looked just like the side from last season that's got people worried. Right from the warm-up you could see that something was wrong - in fact my wife said to me that she thought we were going to lose at that point. No energy.
Depressing stuff.'"
Saw that a Wakey you just knew something was wrong
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| Quote ="denbo63"Get a grip. One bad game, one poor performance and it's the end of the world.
FFs, I'm glad I don't live in some of your houses.
You have one bad day at work where nothing goes right.....would you like to be sacked????????'"
But it isn't just one defeat. It was 2 decent wins in nearly 2 years of pish poor performances and today is back to square 1 because long isn't on the pitch doing what should be done during the week on the training pitch
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| Quote ="denbo63"Point taken. However another test of his coaching abilities will be to lift the team for fridays game. Test of character and all that.'"
We tested that aspect of his capabilities last season...he failed miserably
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| Quote ="denbo63"Get a grip. One bad game, one poor performance and it's the end of the world.
FFs, I'm glad I don't live in some of your houses.
You have one bad day at work where nothing goes right.....would you like to be sacked????????'"
To be honest mate if i had a bad day at work and nothing went right i could potentially kill someone so yeah i probably would get the sack, agar wants to think himself lucky to still be a super league coach after the previous two seasons.
And i dont know about you but im not preparred to sit and watch another season like the last two so if this season starts to go the same as them then i say get rid hes had enought time.
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| Quote ="denbo63"Get a grip. One bad game, one poor performance and it's the end of the world.
FFs, I'm glad I don't live in some of your houses.
You have one bad day at work where nothing goes right.....would you like to be sacked????????'"
As much as this defeat hurts, it's more the reasons why we lost and what was put in place to cope without Sean Long.The issue with Agar is when he can't do plan A, does he have a plan B? This will be his third season as coach and in that time he's struggled to show he even has a plan A (apart from 5 drives and a kick) What was the gameplan to shut down Witt?. Horne and Washbrook are not creative halfbacks, so why play them together (as well as play Horne who isn't fit and not fit for purpose anymore)? As Head Coach Agar is meant to be the leader, but I've yet to see any leadership or inspiring of players when things are going wrong.
As for it the first season of being Agar's team, a coach of any calibre should be able to devise a way of overcoming a teams shortcomings to maximise it's potential.
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| For me before the season started I felt if we put the right team on the pitch we could beat anyone in the SL, but get it wrong and we could get beat
Today we got the selection wrong, Washbrook and Horne never worked last year why would it work now
For me Turner was brave enough to put his hand up, could have given him a go if did not work move whiting to 6 turner to centre,
Why is Sam not in the team, we have a young agressive prop who gives all we then use a player who was off this season instead who does not break tackles and is easy to bring down, we also bring in Burnet who really needs fast ground , Why not have put Sam in the pack to give more punch We have one of the biggest packs and should play the big lads all the time and make the teams work.
Be brave Mr Agar you will not be given the time you had last season.
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"But it isn't just one defeat. It was 2 decent wins in nearly 2 years of pish poor performances and today is back to square 1 because long isn't on the pitch doing what should be done during the week on the training pitch'"
Are you saying that everything Long does is repeatable by practising it during training ?
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